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TA DJ's: Choose the challenge (pg. 7)
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| wotyzoid |
| You guys are just being really arrogant about it, ing fun vortexes. Go ahead. |
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| Teezdalien |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Of course it could. Just put some time and effort into rounding up interest and participants and promoting the competition on here effectively. Then set up some rules for the competition, have people vote for the best mix without the knowledge of who mixed what via a poll etc. etc. The question is simply whether you can be bothered or not. |
LOL, I'd have to be one of the worst promoters in the history of mankind. I mean sure it's possible and I would like to see it happen, but honestly my hands are tied with other commitments over the next few months and finding enough time to devote to promoting this challenge, organising prizes and these other aspects properly would be a bit hard.
Sorry I'm just not the right guy for this stuff, but if I can find a spare few hours one day once it's up and running I might submit a mix. |
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| ziptnf |
As far as prizes are concerned, we'd have to get our moderators and Swamper more involved. For some reason, I doubt they give a what we're doing here in DJ Promo.
Either way, the Theme challenge will be first up. Taking place in January. Everyone cool with that?
If these two new challenges in 2014 flop (theme/master crate) then we might have to adjust the following year. If one or both are successful we can keep trying new ideas.
I'd like to wrap up the voting/discussion so we can return to our daily lives and prepare for the first challenge. Have a good holiday, and I'll see ya'll soon :) |
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| Lews |
| January is a long time from now. Do we want to start getting this show on the road now, so that people can use the next few months to actively plan / search for tracks / etc. ? |
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| ziptnf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
January is a long time from now. Do we want to start getting this show on the road now, so that people can use the next few months to actively plan / search for tracks / etc. ? |
Well I think since Theme challenge is the first up, we would have a thread that chooses the theme that we will do. Not sure if a poll is as effective as it should be. Generally people can be persuaded to change their minds over the course of a thread.
I'll make the thread this weekend. That gives us two months to decide on a theme. In January when we actually host the challenge, people will either be prepared or will have to join and prepare then.
Edit: Also, I spoke to Stu about prizes. Swamper probably won't view this as a viable competition so that is likely out of the question. |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by ziptnf
Edit: Also, I spoke to Stu about prizes. Swamper probably won't view this as a viable competition so that is likely out of the question. |
If all the participants agree to chip in for a prize themselves, I don't really see why that wouldn't be feasible. I think you should hold off on trying that out until you see whether these themes actually draw a crowd as they are, though. |
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| Psyshell |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
If all the participants agree to chip in for a prize themselves, I don't really see why that wouldn't be feasible. I think you should hold off on trying that out until you see whether these themes actually draw a crowd as they are, though. |
Somehow I don't think that's a good idea since getting participants seems to be a primary concern. |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
If all the participants agree to chip in for a prize themselves, I don't really see why that wouldn't be feasible. I think you should hold off on trying that out until you see whether these themes actually draw a crowd as they are, though. |
I'm just going to jump in briefly on this one before I go to bed.
Firstly, I don't think it's a great idea to make this into a competition, with prizes for "winning". The entire point of these challenges was to have a bit of fun, and push people a little outside their boundaries/comfort-zones as a DJ. I think this should continue to be the focus, whatever the "style" of challenge.
Secondly, as with previous challenges here, we are likely to have people that won't deliver. Bad enough that someone won't deliver a mix, but if everyone is supposed to chip in with some kind of prize as well, then we're likely to have some people that will simply get screwed. I don't want to see that happen.
Spend your money on acquiring music for the challenge(s) rather than on prizes.
Let's keep it fun :gsmile: |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Secondly, as with previous challenges here, we are likely to have people that won't deliver. Bad enough that someone won't deliver a mix, but if everyone is supposed to chip in with some kind of prize as well, then we're likely to have some people that will simply get screwed. I don't want to see that happen.
Spend your money on acquiring music for the challenge(s) rather than on prizes.
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On the contrary. I think a prize being involved and having your own money invested in a competition makes it MORE likely that you'll deliver your mix, as not doing so will mean that you've squandered your money. Not only that, the prize itself could be more music, which in turn could provide inspiration for further challenges. I'm also sure there would be ways to collect the money involved that makes sure everyone gets their money back if things go awry.
I agree that it is unlikely that enough people would be interested in actually spending their own money for a prize on top of the money spent on the music for the challenge, but that doesn't mean the concept itself is unfeasible. |
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| Sushipunk |
| Ultimately, it's up to you guys, but I personally don't feel like it's the best way to go. |
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| Psyshell |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
On the contrary. I think a prize being involved and having your own money invested in a competition makes it MORE likely that you'll deliver your mix, as not doing so will mean that you've squandered your money. Not only that, the prize itself could be more music, which in turn could provide inspiration for further challenges. I'm also sure there would be ways to collect the money involved that makes sure everyone gets their money back if things go awry.
I agree that it is unlikely that enough people would be interested in actually spending their own money for a prize on top of the money spent on the music for the challenge, but that doesn't mean the concept itself is unfeasible. |
1. As I mentioned, I think it's pretty obvious that having an entry cost will reduce the number of participants
2. If people weigh in the factor of losing money this could cause them to submit deliberately unfinished/rushed mixes because they don't want to lose out
3. I can't find it right now, but there's a ted talk that shows how monetary rewards make non obvious tasks take longer to complete. It certainly makes sense on a certain level that creative for the sake of being creative is better than having things at least partially monetary based.
I just thought of something really obvious; what if the prize for winning is getting to choose the theme of the next challenge? Or something like that. There's some non monetary wards that could be worth coveting. |
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| Teezdalien |
I'm pretty much with Sand Leaper here, prizes are even more of an incentive to participate and deliver. The problem lies in where they would come from with this forum. I wasn't really thinking of money being the prize though either, but I guess it could work that way. I really can't see how that would make it any less fun for the entrants either.
It would be great to see some properly promoted contests around these forums and keep it from being a complete spam fest. Other forums I frequent have them and they work well.
As it is, this doesn't seem to draw that much interest from anyone besides the people that enter and a few other posters here I guess.
Again I'm open to any ideas here. |
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