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Tiesto: "Why I left trance" (pg. 7)
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| Sykonee |
| quote: | Originally posted by kosmotika
As you can see, it says a bit about what my aspirations are musically, what kind of things I've done, etc. |
To be honest, your bio's pretty generic too, not the sort of thing that'd grab anyone's attention at a glance. Why not have some fun with it? Write something as a persona, or tell an outlandish tale that still provides the necessary details (ex: Daft Punk claiming a studio accident turned them into robots back in 2000; obviously no one bought it, but it was a fun notion anyway). |
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| Trance-M |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
Just listened to some of his tracks and remixes on Souncloud. Awful. Not my cup of tea, sorry.
I don't understand why so many of their Soundcloud profiles have to be so ing pretentious and egoistic:
"Laurent Veronnez aka Airwave aka many many other guises...he is a naturally gifted artist and this manifested in him at the age of just 7." |
I wasn't expecting anything.
Yeah, notice that too, but that's not only at Soundcloud.
I guess they need to write something down which sounds good. Probably I would have written that I was good with Technik Lego :)
Regarding Point Zero, nothing beats the original imo, but that's half my age ago now. |
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| kosmotika |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sykonee
To be honest, your bio's pretty generic too, not the sort of thing that'd grab anyone's attention at a glance. Why not have some fun with it? Write something as a persona, or tell an outlandish tale that still provides the necessary details (ex: Daft Punk claiming a studio accident turned them into robots back in 2000; obviously no one bought it, but it was a fun notion anyway). |
I don't know, I feel that's a bit silly...the general "idea" of my work is futuristic / sci fi themes but I think it would be a bit gimmicky to claim to be an android who was programmed to spin records or something:crazy: |
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| Sykonee |
| quote: | Originally posted by kosmotika
I don't know, I feel that's a bit silly...the general "idea" of my work is futuristic / sci fi themes but I think it would be a bit gimmicky to claim to be an android who was programmed to spin records or something:crazy: |
You'd be surprised by how many techno DJs cultivated such imagery. |
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| evo8 |
Quality!!!
| quote: | There are few things more tedious than reading DJ / Producer biographies. Yes we get it, you listened to Kraftwerk when you were in diapers and you were interested in computing/electronics during your formative years. Thing is, nobody really cares apart from a few of your kindred spirits; who are also vomming out biographies in their spare time...
Keeping that in mind, there is absolutely no reason for you to be reading this biog. There is no interesting back story to ThermalBear, no character arc, no battle against adversity. In fact, what it amounts to is that after many years of consistently underperforming, finally he has managed to get himself out of bed long enough to fart about with his computer for a bit. |
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| Nell |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
For a while I wondered if EDM just sounds horrendous because of a generation gap, in the same way that techno sounds like "noise" to my parents. Perhaps I simply come from a previous electronic music era and all this wobble drop is actually good music that is just too removed from what I'm accustomed to.
Then I saw one of TA's own DJs - Dave King - drop Acperience at Illuminaughty and manage to send a whole group of kids fleeing from the dancefloor. Turns out the acid madness of the '90s isn't tame at all, and it's still too much for these EDM idiots. The problem isn't that the music is simply too out-there or noisy for me to "get", the problem is that the music is just absolute dog. |
My sentiments exactly. Eloquently put. |
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| djdk |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
For a while I wondered if EDM just sounds horrendous because of a generation gap, in the same way that techno sounds like "noise" to my parents. Perhaps I simply come from a previous electronic music era and all this wobble drop is actually good music that is just too removed from what I'm accustomed to.
Then I saw one of TA's own DJs - Dave King - drop Acperience at Illuminaughty and manage to send a whole group of kids fleeing from the dancefloor. Turns out the acid madness of the '90s isn't tame at all, and it's still too much for these EDM idiots. The problem isn't that the music is simply too out-there or noisy for me to "get", the problem is that the music is just absolute dog. |
I could see that group of kids youre on about and before playing aciperience thought they were either going to lose their or go home, their loss. I have been at festivals watching people like slipmatt rinse out acid house classics and seen teenagers hearing it for the first time and going completely mental because they had no idea dance music could be that good
I was having a very interesting conversation with the guy who runs funktion one at the BMC last weekend on this very topic. He said that the best thing about dance music is that "the groove occupies your body and allows your mind to go somewhere nice", which I though was pretty much spot on. What EDM is completely missing is the groove, it simply isnt part of the structure of the music. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by djdk
I could see that group of kids youre on about and before playing aciperience thought they were either going to lose their or go home, their loss. I have been at festivals watching people like slipmatt rinse out acid house classics and seen teenagers hearing it for the first time and going completely mental because they had no idea dance music could be that good. |
Oh, I'm not saying you made the wrong decision to play the track or anything. I just think that episode was illuminating because the room had basically been electro / glitch-hop / noisy all night, and I don't think those kids ran off because Acperience sounded tame or boring. As you said on the night, they just clearly didn't understand what the was going on. |
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| djdk |
| Ah I wasnt suggesting you were, although on reading that back it does sound that way. Those were actually two unconnected thoughts masquerading as a paragraph |
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| Dj Pluviose |
There is much ing groove and hype to be danced to when you hear an acid or psy bassline. Or something melodically entrancing.
Goahead - Freebeach (Anjuna Remix) is currently a song on my mind
edit: After hearing System-J's story with the kids who ran off when they here acid-like EDM, it just saddens me to see what the current community of EDM listens to~~ or what the average listener is listening to now.
I don't even think these people enjoy their current electro House crap. I honestly think they just want to "conform" to the preferences of everybody else to blend in. I have personally sent all my friends the old classics and best hits of Trance from the 90s and the best feedback I get from them is:
"Oh, this stuff is good! I can see it has that original charm to it... but music has evolved so much since then!"
What does 'evolved' actually ing mean? More like 'devolved.' There is no passion made in these tracks nowadays. It's just all about stadium smashing tracks with no layers of sound, no entrancing or mystical vibe, boring ass breakdown-build-drop anthem formulaic electro house, and all these stupid kids wailing their arms around with sunglasses at raves acting like they know all about it.
I'm only 22 yet I feel like I come off as an old and bitter music elitist because of these kids. |
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| Sykonee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Pluviose
I'm only 22 yet I feel like I come off as an old and bitter music elitist because of these kids. |
Don't feel so bad. I was ranting about similar things when trance turned into cheesy Dutch anthem schlock, and I was 22 years old too! |
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| kosmotika |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Pluviose
There is much ing groove and hype to be danced to when you hear an acid or psy bassline. Or something melodically entrancing.
Goahead - Freebeach (Anjuna Remix) is currently a song on my mind
edit: After hearing System-J's story with the kids who ran off when they here acid-like EDM, it just saddens me to see what the current community of EDM listens to~~ or what the average listener is listening to now.
I don't even think these people enjoy their current electro House crap. I honestly think they just want to "conform" to the preferences of everybody else to blend in. I have personally sent all my friends the old classics and best hits of Trance from the 90s and the best feedback I get from them is:
"Oh, this stuff is good! I can see it has that original charm to it... but music has evolved so much since then!"
What does 'evolved' actually ing mean? More like 'devolved.' There is no passion made in these tracks nowadays. It's just all about stadium smashing tracks with no layers of sound, no entrancing or mystical vibe, boring ass breakdown-build-drop anthem formulaic electro house, and all these stupid kids wailing their arms around with sunglasses at raves acting like they know all about it.
I'm only 22 yet I feel like I come off as an old and bitter music elitist because of these kids. |
That's what I keep telling people! There's a difference between something changing and something evolving. Evolving implies that it's become better in some aspect, which modern stuff just hasn't. I'm 22 (as of 2 days ago) also man and am passionate as hell about the "true" trance sound...you're basically a carbon copy of me! :D
It's like saying you can't enjoy The Beatles anymore because Blink 182 or whatever other band is running around now, the logic is absolutely ludicrous. To me, an example of a stadium smashing track would be Tiesto - Athena. Hell, he did smash stadiums with this one, the first being the olympic stadium!
One thing I keep wondering is, how the was this not good enough for big name djs? |
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