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| Alex |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
My favourite 
I still wish The Roast was around though. Either Turnbull has done nothing stupid yet, or I need some Aussie humour to know what your prime ministers are up to :p |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
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Well, it's all correct... Except, there are two of us here: Wotyzoid is also Brazilian :) |
I'm 'murican, my parents are brazilian! nah just kidding i'm practically brazilian: ages 0.5 - 11 |
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| wotyzoid |
| Unfortunately, i don't think Bernie can pull it off to be honest. As for the political talk on facebook i don't mind it so much if it's tasteful. Granted hardly anything on facebook is, i'd rather see political blabbering than selfies and another status about the mets. |
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| Alex |
Bernie Sanders seems like a well-informed, nice and often objective guy that has a mind of his own.
Problem? He doesn't seem aggressive, he doesn't look all that presidential (and yes I know that's subjective, but let's face it he looks like he was drinking wine with Pontius Pilate and just never died).
Image (unfortunately) plays such a huge role in politics.
While I'm not a conservative or liberal when it comes to my views on Canadian politics, our soon to be former prime minister Stephen Harper managed to keep this country largely untouched by the global economic fiasco and made some good business decisions for our country. He was also a liar and hard to like because of his Christian/Right-wing views on morality and other stuff.
Despite the fact he didn't really damage our country economically and many argue made a lot of tough but good decisions, he was booted out of office two days ago by an unproven, albeit good-looking and charismatic liberal. And by booted out I mean he got his ass handed to him.
Our Prime-Minister designate (Justin Trudeau) is poised to create Canada's first political "dynasty" as his father was one of our most liked prime-ministers, but many experts believe that it was his talent for speaking, charisma, good-looks and general "likeability" that ensured his resounding victory, not his policies or the fact that our previous prime-minister was actually terrible at his job.
TL:DR version:
Sanders could probably do a good job, but will be largely ignored because he doesn't have the demeanor or swagger that emotional voters look for. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
I'm 'murican, my parents are brazilian! nah just kidding i'm practically brazilian: ages 0.5 - 11 |
So you were born there and went back to the States age 11? I guess you've got enough bragging rights to say you're both then!
Also, rdevito is also Braziliaan. If you're reading this, rdv, foi mal ter esquecido, pensei que cê tivesse ido embora :p |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
So you were born there and went back to the States age 11? I guess you've got enough bragging rights to say you're both then!
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or neither...
speaking of, I met rubens at d-edge in sao paulo, true story. he's cool , he bought me a beer.
edit: btw marcus i still have to get back to you on the japanese stuff, sorry i haven't had time. |
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| DJ RANN |
Sanders is a nice guy and like him but he doesn't stand a chance getting the nom.
Firstly, he's a political lightweight. His international connections are virtually non-existant. Now factor in his stances (most of which I like) about being anti-corporate, fairer taxation, pro choice, for pro gun control, pro single payer healthcare, pro socialist, anti defense spending (etc etc etc), and he's basically basically alienated all the most powerful political lobbying groups that exist, and control, our political system.
For better or for worse, Hillary has spent the last 40 year in politics, knows every world leader and diplomat personally (Angela Merkel is one of her closest friends), has incredibly strong business and political connections, not to mention she's a legacy.
She has serious global platform experience and whether or not you like her, if you asked, who really has the chance to be the first female POTUS, there's simply no-one with the caliber, expertise or gravitas that Hillary has.
You also have to realize her campaign has been rolling since 2012 when she started making the exit as secretary basically to focus on her upcoming campaign. That's 4 years in the making. Sanders simply can't catch up, no matter how enthused Reddit or your facebook feed may be.
Don't forget, in the late stages of the election, the smaller political details don't matter - it comes down to one line, single bullet point positions.
Hillary will be: Vote for the the 1st Female president.
As for the republicans, there's simply no way Trump will get the nom, so please stop talking about him.
Jeb Bush won't either - I'm not going to go in to detail, but he has a skeleton in his closet, that the major donors know about and that's why they've not contributed to him (the Koch brothers haven't even invited him to any of the fundraising retreats).
If he navigates it right, the GOP nom will go to Marco Rubio. His fundraising has been going extremely well, he has some support (although nothing like the Dems have) with latinos, and has decent political exposure.
Ben Carson will be out of the race within 4 months. He's a buffoon, in the same way trump is - you have to realize that many of these candidates know they don't have a chance in hell of getting the nom, but A) they make a small fortune just running, B) it increases their political stature and C) It connects them to major donors and players so that when they next need to run for governor, senator, mayor (or whatever) they now have much better connections and funding streams. |
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| rainbowunicorn |
| quote: | Originally posted by Alex
he doesn't look all that presidential (and yes I know that's subjective, but let's face it).
Image (unfortunately) plays such a huge role in politics.
TL:DR version:
Sanders could probably do a good job, but will be largely ignored because he doesn't have the demeanor or swagger that emotional voters look for. |
Goes to show how little you know. MANY American presidents in the past looked like Bernie Sanders actually. In theory, image matters, but your idea of good image vs actual presidential image are different. Quit drinking the koolaid of hearing and learning about public image in the general sense and applying it randomly to your OPINION that's unsubstantiated. |
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| rainbowunicorn |
| quote: | Originally posted by planetaryplayer
i voted for colonel sanders for president of the pine tree country. i just found out the german pope retired, i missed the vote and now some mexican took his place |
He's a commie and it's funny to see Fox News, which always cling onto religion and the pope as their moral compass, to go against their own words. |
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| rainbowunicorn |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
You're not factoring one incredibly important thing:
Studies (and there was a huge metastudy on this) have concluded by their very nature, that conservatives and people who identify with "the right" are more closed minded and less open to change and or new ways of doing things. They are far more skeptical of challenging the status quo.
Conversely, Liberals or "Lefties" by nature are more open minded to change and new methodologies. Most studies showed that these groups of people were far more likely to adapt to and accept change.
This is one of the reasons that the GOP is in such trouble now since they've become more and more polarized to the right and hard line conservatism, they are become more niche in their base and much more exclusive, essentially narrowing their base and with that sources of information (i.e. Fox news that has increasingly pandered to this).
Liberals have become the party of inclusion and with this expanded their base, which is why they are doing especially well with latinos and naturalized citizens. Furthermore youth who tend to to be more open to change and therefore identify more. |
I agree.
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
This election will be won |
by gerrymandering, or by the rich, who own major corporations and conglomerates, controlling the government and media and the narrative, rigging elections, and people's votes don't mean a thing. |
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| rainbowunicorn |
| quote: | Originally posted by Godking5
Another problem is that the internet and social media makes it wayyyy to easy to "self select" your information inputs. In most cases , this only reaffirms peoples bias. |
and some people on here are shamelessly (or unawarely) proud of their "carefully constructed facebook newsfeed of close-netted groups and friends" :stongue: |
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