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| rainbowunicorn |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Sanders is a nice guy and like him but he doesn't stand a chance getting the nom.
Firstly, he's a political lightweight. His international connections are virtually non-existant. Now factor in his stances (most of which I like) about being anti-corporate, fairer taxation, pro choice, for pro gun control, pro single payer healthcare, pro socialist, anti defense spending (etc etc etc), and he's basically basically alienated all the most powerful political lobbying groups that exist, and control, our political system.
For better or for worse, Hillary has spent the last 40 year in politics, knows every world leader and diplomat personally (Angela Merkel is one of her closest friends), has incredibly strong business and political connections, not to mention she's a legacy.
She has serious global platform experience and whether or not you like her, if you asked, who really has the chance to be the first female POTUS, there's simply no-one with the caliber, expertise or gravitas that Hillary has.
You also have to realize her campaign has been rolling since 2012 when she started making the exit as secretary basically to focus on her upcoming campaign. That's 4 years in the making. Sanders simply can't catch up, no matter how enthused Reddit or your facebook feed may be.
Don't forget, in the late stages of the election, the smaller political details don't matter - it comes down to one line, single bullet point positions.
Hillary will be: Vote for the the 1st Female president. |
This is the narrative the media keeps pushing, dismissing and flat out ignoring Bernie Sanders. I find it suspicious that the media, even political pundits and comedians, keep dismissing Bernie like the plague, when his stance on many issues (wars, cops, gun violence, Wall St, healthcare, education, etc) are on point and many people would agree, while Hillary either ignores those questions or doesn't have any solutions, yet the media keep pushing for Hillary, like she's the obvious choice or something and the public should just get on board without question. Am I missing something here? Doesn't Hillary seem corrupt, working for both sides, Main St and Wall St, to majority of the public? Doesn't she seem like yet another corrupt politician, like the disappointment Obama turned out to be?
Resentingly, I think if she wins, she would win because of being the 1st female president, just like Obama was voted unfortunately for being just the 1st black president, rather than basing on qualifications and abilities. But I think people are smarter than that now, are more aware now, compared to few years ago. That's why Bernie Sanders is picking up steam, because people are now not buying or settling for BS or typical politician, on both sides. |
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| Alex |
| quote: | Originally posted by rainbowunicorn
Goes to show how little you know. MANY American presidents in the past looked like Bernie Sanders actually. In theory, image matters, but your idea of good image vs actual presidential image are different. Quit drinking the koolaid of hearing and learning about public image in the general sense and applying it randomly to your OPINION that's unsubstantiated. |
Haha are you stalking me now? How cute!
I've done nothing of what you're accusing me of. You've just got a crush on me for some reason.
Also the fact that you claimed a lot of TAs are sheep is unbelievably condescending and not even true.
And don't tell me what to do. My opinions are opinions, no arguing there, and I believe everything I said about the importance of image is mostly correct albeit general.
You should drink some of my koolaid, but let me offer you a special sippy cup that has a few added ingredients. It'll reveal the world's secrets to you! |
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| rainbowunicorn |
| quote: | Originally posted by Alex
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Ok. You obviously sound like a kid. We can end at that. |
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| Alex |
| quote: | Originally posted by rainbowunicorn
Goes to show how little you know. MANY American presidents in the past looked like Bernie Sanders actually. In theory, image matters, but your idea of good image vs actual presidential image are different. Quit drinking the koolaid of hearing and learning about public image in the general sense and applying it randomly to your OPINION that's unsubstantiated. |
I love how you ignored most of my post and told me my opinions are unsubstantiated based on the "soundbite" you took from my post.
You're such a sheep bro. |
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| rainbowunicorn |
| quote: | Originally posted by Alex
I love how you ignored most of my post and told me my opinions are unsubstantiated based on the "soundbite" you took from my post.
You're such a sheep bro. |
LOL
Ok. I'll go line by line:
| quote: | Originally posted by Alex
Haha are you stalking me now? How cute! |
No. I'm not. Replying to you or to your response to me is not stalking you.
| quote: | Originally posted by Alex
I've done nothing of what you're accusing me of. You've just got a crush on me for some reason. |
What?! Again, read above.
| quote: | Originally posted by Alex
Also the fact that you claimed a lot of TAs are sheep is unbelievably condescending and not even true. |
Did I say "a lot" or "some"? I was referring to some who were proud of their neatly and tightly knit facebook group of friends and groups for their limited closed off world of same biased information, echoing and reinforcing back to them and their self-fulfilling preconceived notions.
| quote: | Originally posted by Alex
And don't tell me what to do. My opinions are opinions, no arguing there, and I believe everything I said about the importance of image is mostly correct albeit general. |
That's why I said it was a general statement and is sound in theory, but not applicable to reality, because what you may think is presidential image is just your opinion and doesn't automatically mean it applies to Bernie Sanders. O'Malley (cue the Chappelle joke) certainly looks "presidential" by that stereotypical Hollywood portrayal of what presidential may look like, but he certainly isn't presidential material.
| quote: | Originally posted by Alex
You should drink some of my koolaid, but let me offer you a special sippy cup that has a few added ingredients. It'll reveal the world's secrets to you! |
Lame comebacks like these are why I said let's just leave it at you're a child. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by rainbowunicorn
just like Obama was voted unfortunately for being just the 1st black president, rather than basing on qualifications and abilities. |
what a load a crap. Obama was elected because he wasn't a republican. |
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| Alex |
| Uhhh ok. Well, granted you did address one of my posts in it's entirety now, but I was talking about my big post in this thread. (And yes I see you addressed part of that again) but you ignored the part of my big post about my understanding and knowledge of how politics in my country and how I was justifying and comparing based on that knowledge. In other words using my knowledge of Canadian image politics and offering my opinion on the image related politics south of my border. |
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| rainbowunicorn |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
what a load a crap. Obama was elected because he wasn't a republican. |
You're denying that the mass majority voted for Obama because of race, because he was the 1st black president?! |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by rainbowunicorn
You're denying that the mass majority voted for Obama because of race, because he was the 1st black president?! |
yes. Ronald McDonald could have stood on the democratic ticket and won in 2008. |
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| rainbowunicorn |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yes. Ronald McDonald could have stood on the democratic ticket and won in 2008. |
Oh please! You can't be serious! There were other candidates too |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by rainbowunicorn
Oh please! You can't be serious! There were other candidates too |
im not talking about the primaries. |
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| Alex |
Well obviously being black helped. He got a huge portion of the black vote.
He was also charismatic, an excellent speaker and a lot of people found him handsome (for a politician :p).
Also, every time any contender starts hammering the good old "CHANGE" word into our heads it's always a safe strategy to sway undecideds. |
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