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European Politics Thread: Netherlands, France, Germany, Great Britain, and Narnia 2017 (pg. 5)
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| Trance-M |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
You're dumber than a bag of hammers, aren't you? |
| quote: | GroenLinks
Our country depends too much on fossil fuels such as gas, coal and oil. The burning of this contributes to the global warming. We choose a country that runs on solar and wind energy. Of course no coal plants. |
As GroenLinks of course also is against nuclear power they will bring us back to the middle ages for sure. Keep dreaming. |
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| Lews |
Yeah, that's great; you still haven't proven that green energy is impossible to achieve.
And as I said before, obviously GroenLinks in power would be a bad thing. I'm not on their side. My family is very much CDA ;) |
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| Trance-M |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Yeah, that's great; you still haven't proven that green energy is impossible to achieve.
And as I said before, obviously GroenLinks in power would be a bad thing. I'm not on their side. My family is very much CDA ;) |
How good is your Dutch?
Hope Chrome translate maybe does a half decent job: http://climategate.nl/2017/02/24/gr...neetverwoester/
Translated one of the comments:
Amalia wind farm provides as much energy throughout the year as a fossil plant of 48MW.
The Eemshaven (coal) central produces 1560 MW demand-driven so you therefore just can deliver as much as 300 Amalia wind farms that also deliver additional weather-dependent flow. Again a lie that with wind and sun can keep going on our energy supply.
Literally frenzy policy drawn up based on dreams and ultimately ending in a dull nightmare. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| We're not yet at the stage where we can completely replace dirty energy sources with green ones, but you are ing stupid and negligent if you think that means we shouldn't even bother trying to start the transition. Your country will be right at the top of the ed List when the sea-levels start rising, and it will be within your children's lifetimes. Chew on that next time you're driving them to football training. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
On that scale yes. It's about equity. This is why capitalism is linear and doomed from the beginning. Just reason with me. There is a demand for affordable food, you as an entrepreneur have the ability to provide the supply and make a handsome profit but with detrimental costs to the environment, its rosources, and your customer's healths, and there is no legislation to impede you. Society is at this point held ransom to your better angels. |
society holds itself to ransom with its wants.
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
It has everything to do with what you asked. The coal mine is deseving of the green tape because its priorities are monetary, if it was publicly funded it would be cyclic. We pay for this energy that we make use of directly without the middle man getting rich off of us. |
huh? people's consumption habits don't change by whether the grid is publically or privately owned, except if there's a marked difference in price. and, if you removed the profit-motive from energy generation, there's a good chance you could provide lower prices to the regular people. which in turn would increase energy usage and co2 production. or, the government could keep prices artificially high in order to keep a lid on consumption, and the end user would be in the same position they were in under the capitalists; essentially showing that they are just as deserving of green tape as the owners of capital. |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
and, if you removed the profit-motive from energy generation, there's a good chance you could provide lower prices to the regular people. which in turn would increase energy usage and co2 production. |
This is actually a really good point. In the summer, I run my A/C as sparingly as possibly because it's ing expensive. If elec prices were cheaper, I would almost certainly run that er a lot more than I do. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
This is actually a really good point. In the summer, I run my A/C as sparingly as possibly because it's ing expensive. If elec prices were cheaper, I would almost certainly run that er a lot more than I do. |
if i were living in QLD i would subsist on bread and water to afford constant 24/7 AC. even if it meant that a handful of island nations ended up under the sea. sorry guys, first world problems are real. |
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| Sushipunk |
| I paid my elec bill a couple of weeks ago. Just over $900 for the summer quarter :wtf: |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
I paid my elec bill a couple of weeks ago. Just over $900 for the summer quarter :wtf: |
! im about $1200/year. about time all your feathered visitors started paying board, mate! |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
! im about $1200/year. about time all your feathered visitors started paying board, mate! |
, that's not bad! You'd have gas heating down there for the winter though, huh? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
, that's not bad! You'd have gas heating down there for the winter though, huh? |
it's more that im a jew who will put socks or a jumper on instead of using the heater :p plus my place is really small. |
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