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Anyone have a Minidisc player?? (pg. 4)
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| AmbiguousBliss |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
... Canada Computers inside Pacific Mall (and no they don't have SARS lol). |
I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but laugh when I read that, Em. :stongue: Anyhow, I'm looking to get one of those as well, but I'm too confused with the huuuge selection there is out there. :crazy: |
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| brunette |
^ yes!
Please simplify, somebody!
What is the best deal? |
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| AmbiguousBliss |
| quote: | Originally posted by brunette
^ yes!
Please simplify, somebody!
What is the best deal? |
I've been going around and around that question for the longest time now, lol. |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by brunette
^ yes!
Please simplify, somebody!
What is the best deal? |
wells that depends on a number of things .. i guess the first question is .. what's ur budget range on a portable music device ??
(cuz everything else will depend on this..) |
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| TranceGeek |
well basically what it comes down to with current technology is:
MD players = best sound quality, 72 min discs, but expensive
mp3 players = more compact, cheaper, but worse sound quality, and storage dependent on the recorded sound quality |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGeek
well basically what it comes down to with current technology is:
MD players = best sound quality, 72 min discs, but expensive
mp3 players = more compact, cheaper, but worse sound quality, and storage dependent on the recorded sound quality |
wells yes.. but the same could be said for both and vise versa.. i mean if u record with a NetMD at 32X in LP4 the quality is bad or encode in higher quality SP at 4X and not be able to fit as much music on a single MD.. at the same time you could encode an mp3 at 320k bit-rate and take up huge amounts of space on ur CD's due to file size.. both have a tradeoff in terms of quality over speed/space...
one is not necessarily better than the other since it'll usually depend on the individual and at what quality they want to record their music in .. |
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| brunette |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
wells that depends on a number of things .. i guess the first question is .. what's ur budget range on a portable music device ??
(cuz everything else will depend on this..) |
yeah, I guess.. but, I don't have a set limit yet [although, I know it isn't high :p].. I definitely need something portable and compact and I don't want to carry 3 CD cases along with it. That is my main problem.. don't like to drag a lot of luggage. (this might not have simplified things at all! :o) |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by brunette
yeah, I guess.. but, I don't have a set limit yet [although, I know it isn't high :p].. I definitely need something portable and compact and I don't want to carry 3 CD cases along with it. That is my main problem.. don't like to drag a lot of luggage. (this might not have simplified things at all! :o) |
wells i wouldn't be too concerned about luggage.. no matter which one u go with ..
MP3/CD players - u'll only need ONE CD in the device since that'll hold more than 700 MB's of music..
NetMD players - maybe about 3 small discs for about 4 hours of music..
CF/SD or built in Memory players - no luggage needed
Internal Harddrive Players - same goes for that as well
heh , hope this helps.. :p |
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| Elmo-On-XTC |
I record in LP4 mode and don't notice music quality loss...if you're using DJ headphones on then obviously you'll hear every little crack and *blip* in it. besides, the tradeoff is worth it...5 hours of muzak on one disk, mmmmmmmmmmmm
battery life on MDs are slightly better than Mp3s players, but they're fairly close now I believe. MDs can record via microphone (at least the more expensive models can). I recorded a set with my sony streetstyle headphones and it was decent...
Personally, I would go for an iPOD...only if you have a mac tho! I don't think I need to tell anyone how ty PCs are and all :rolleyes:
death to the PC! :whip: :whip: :whip:
MAC 4 Eva!!! :happy2: |
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| fantom |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
wells i wouldn't be too concerned about luggage.. no matter which one u go with ..
MP3/CD players - u'll only need ONE CD in the device since that'll hold more than 700 MB's of music..
NetMD players - maybe about 3 small discs for about 4 hours of music..
CF/SD or built in Memory players - no luggage needed
Internal Harddrive Players - same goes for that as well
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Yep, true..
See, I've got that SlimX-350 and I only have one CD in it (most MP3s encoded at 160/192kbps so I get around 8-9 hours of HIGH quality music there, but you can always encode your MP3s at 128kbps and squeeze like 12 hours out of those 700MBs available on each CD)... plus I have no need to carry any other CDs with me, let alone CD cases (god forbid!).
But, the only drawback is the size... yep, it's the same size as most of the regular CD players are, but hey, I can't really complain much since the sound is great, and for this price (got it for $170CDN, but you'll probably have to shell out around $210+tax) it's a deal and a half!
Now, that Phillips HDD100 with 15GBs of storage in that size is just... wow! I guess I'll save up some money and get me one of those once it comes out (oh yeah, and sell the SlimX).
Now, that IFP-195TC from iRiver is just damn expensive... like $300-350USD I believe, and I don't think it's that worth the money, even though it is the size of a lighter, and lets you record 512MB of MP3s (and no, the sound quality isn't , unless you record all your MP3s in like 64kbps), which is almost as much as a 650-700MB CD of MP3s (ok, not almost, but it's there). And if you have the money, I'd definitely recommend that baby... no moving parts, nothing extra to take with you, pop in, pop out, whatever, plus the recording of MP3s onto the player is faster than any MD out there on the market right now. Plus it has the FM/AM radio, ability to RECORD voice on it (yes, you can use it in clubs to record sets).
Now, the thing with MDs, I think they are overrated. I've had a SHARP one, and was very impressed with the sound and features, but that was about it... Discs allow you to record ONLY 74minutes of quality music, and recording it at LP2 or LP4 is just pointless cuz you wouldn't wanna listen to that anyway (if you're an audiophile like myself) and it defeats the purpose of having a high quality minidisc player! Plus, you gotta carry all those MDs with you, and after like a year and a half of using it exchanging the MDs all the time took its toll and the damn opening mechanism gave up... no warranty coverage and me getting pissed every time I want to record something on the MD and it takes up an hour to do so resulted in me throwing this out and getting ahold of the SlimX-350. Oh yeah, and I found that converting the MP3s to the MD format (in order to record them faster, I guess) and then recording them took way longer than I was willing to wait...
So, the moral of the story is... if you have the money, go for an MP3 player with a LOT of storage (512MB which gives you around 7-8 hours of high quality music or 256MB which gives you, yes, half of that), or a higher end MD player (but be ready for a longer wait when trying to record discs, and yeah, get an MD case or a pouch).
If you're lacking the funds, get a cheaper MP3 player, or just go for the MP3/CD player (the beauty of it is recording 700MBs/9hrs of music in 3 minutes... whoo-hoo!).
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGeek
MD players = best sound quality, 72 min discs, but expensive
mp3 players = more compact, cheaper, but worse sound quality, and storage dependent on the recorded sound quality |
The difference in sound quality depends ONLY on the bitrate that your MP3s are encoded in and the quality that you record them onto the MD or MP3 player, nothing else... hardware wise, both of these will produce a solid quality sound. And geek, I know you have a pair of those V6 headphones, so you're already ahead of the game... |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Elmo-On-XTC
I record in LP4 mode and don't notice music quality loss...if you're using DJ headphones on then obviously you'll hear every little crack and *blip* in it. besides, the tradeoff is worth it...5 hours of muzak on one disk, mmmmmmmmmmmm
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kz, let's say you record at LP4 which is comparable to maybe 128 k bit-rate in MP3 quality? actually LP4 is a little lower , but whatever for now..
so for an MP3/CD player that means on one 700 MB CD, you could fit say .. 200 songs that are 3.5 megs @ 4 minutes long each (on average). so, 200 songs is about 800 minutes long which equates to approx. 13.3 hours of music. That's enuff music to not have to carry around any other CD's and just the player along on its own! again, these figures are all relative , but just trying to give a good idea in comparison to NetMD's..
again you COULD record in LP4 to squeeze in that extra juice, but like fantom said above, that defeats the whole purpose of getting a high quality NetMD! I guess if you're using earbuds that might be fine, but I'm pretty sure that most of the ppl here are audiophiles and I can't see myself listening to music in LP4 quality! I use a pair of Sony MDR-V300 headphones when i'm outside on my iMP-350 and a pair of Roland RH-50 headphones so I can hear those cracks & blips on a NetMD.. but then again that's just me so ..
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battery life on MDs are slightly better than Mp3s players, but they're fairly close now I believe.
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how long does it go for .. ? i've only run out of battery once in my whole entire time with the iMP-350 and that's only cuz i forgot to charge it after a few days. in any case if u do run out , there's a auxillary port for external AA's .. otherwise it runs on 2 Ni-MH rechargeables..
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Personally, I would go for an iPOD...only if you have a mac tho!
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wells, there's software out there that will allow you to use an iPOD with WinXP. and if you don't want to go with an iPOD there are plenty of other microdrive based players out there which are just as good..
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I don't think I need to tell anyone how ty PCs are and all :rolleyes:
death to the PC! :whip: :whip: :whip:
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haha, i'm sure that if there weren't PC's then there wouldn't be such thing as this site .. :D
i noticed something synonymous with my friends who own MD's over MP3 players.. they seem to like to like to use MSN over ICQ and prefer MAC's over PC's .. haha .. just found that a little interesting.. but that's a whole 'nother story!! :p
| quote: | | MAC 4 Eva!!! :happy2: |
uhoh .. i feel a thread topic hijack coming on ! LOL :eek: |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by fantom
Now, that IFP-195TC from iRiver is just damn expensive... like $300-350USD I believe, and I don't think it's that worth the money, even though it is the size of a lighter, and lets you record 512MB of MP3s (and no, the sound quality isn't , unless you record all your MP3s in like 64kbps), which is almost as much as a 650-700MB CD of MP3s (ok, not almost, but it's there). And if you have the money, I'd definitely recommend that baby... no moving parts, nothing extra to take with you, pop in, pop out, whatever, plus the recording of MP3s onto the player is faster than any MD out there on the market right now. Plus it has the FM/AM radio, ability to RECORD voice on it (yes, you can use it in clubs to record sets).
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serious .. those internal Flash memory based players are sweet, but just so damn pricey !! ah wells.. give it a bit, eventually external CF based players will all become cheap enuff to carry around .. |
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