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Half-Life 2 vs Doom III (pg. 7)
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Lac
It's like buying resident evil series :p |
RE4 will own everything...cept for HL2, of course.
k, so from the looks of it it's coming out November 18th (if it doesn't get delayed again)...so about 2 months to save up for a new comp.
You guys think an Athlon 2.2 gig, Radeon 9700, 512ddr ram be good enough for this game? |
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| AZCA |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Lac
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ok, FX is getting 35.4 and 9800 PRO with 128 36.6, wow, man, u get an extra frame, that beats FX badly, FX is behind by 0.000001 %, wow. |
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| DJ Lac |
| quote: | Originally posted by AZCA
ok, FX is getting 35.4 and 9800 PRO with 128 36.6, wow, man, u get an extra frame, that beats FX badly, FX is behind by 0.000001 %, wow. |
ya but your making a big deal that fx 5900 beats 9800 like that. So I proved my case that it did beat fx 5900. Wow you really need to read more I seriously suggest it.
Also with your driver information that it would improve well.. look at nvidia they have more drivers then ever, and Ati has minimum drivers which even beat the other drivers of nvidia. So tell me where is your proof of nvidia's optimization of the drivers that will beat the 9800?
Also if nvidia didn't have those new drivers the fx 5900 would be owned by the 9600. Says a lot about nvidia's dealing that they make their hardware and tweak it with software. As for Ati they care more on the hardware so they don't have to tweak it as much. I think thats what everyone prefers. It's like having a console you don't want to keep on updating would you now? |
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| DJ Lac |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
RE4 will own everything...cept for HL2, of course.
k, so from the looks of it it's coming out November 18th (if it doesn't get delayed again)...so about 2 months to save up for a new comp.
You guys think an Athlon 2.2 gig, Radeon 9700, 512ddr ram be good enough for this game? |
ya thats good.. but if you have the extra money you can buy a 9800 non pro.. But radeon 9700 pro is definatley a good choice. I have a radeon 9700 pro and its great.. |
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| AZCA |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Lac
ya but your making a big deal that fx 5900 beats 9800 like that. So I proved my case that it did beat fx 5900. Wow you really need to read more I seriously suggest it.
Also with your driver information that it would improve well.. look at nvidia they have more drivers then ever, and Ati has minimum drivers which even beat the other drivers of nvidia. So tell me where is your proof of nvidia's optimization of the drivers that will beat the 9800?
Also if nvidia didn't have those new drivers the fx 5900 would be owned by the 9600. Says a lot about nvidia's dealing that they make their hardware and tweak it with software. As for Ati they care more on the hardware so they don't have to tweak it as much. I think thats what everyone prefers. It's like having a console you don't want to keep on updating would you now? |
u are just one huge lamer who has no understanding whatsoever about computers.
Hardware my friend cannot do anything, it is simply silicon with some metal and plastic around it, and what makes it useful ARE INSTRUCTIONS, computer code which tells hardware what to do and how to do it. And optimized code is critical to performance of any HARDWARE.
ATI has gone through 22 revisions of Catalyst driver to reach this point, nVidia has only made 3 revisions for FX, they simply haven't had the time to write good drivers, FX is a fresh video card.
U are just one dumb fool, u name is atiwhore. |
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| DJ Lac |
oh ya before you rant again I forgot to put this under the benchmark picture. (woops)
We colored the scores with the NVIDIA drivers v45.23 and v51.75 because they do not render the correct image (see quality comparison). The only driver rendering a correct image is v44.03 from Mai 2003, which shows a very low performance compared with the ATI cards.
Now that explains it all. |
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| DJ Lac |
| quote: | Originally posted by AZCA
u are just one huge lamer who has no understanding whatsoever about computers.
Hardware my friend cannot do anything, it is simply silicon with some metal and plastic around it, and what makes it useful ARE INSTRUCTIONS, computer code which tells hardware what to do and how to do it. And optimized code is critical to performance of any HARDWARE.
ATI has gone through 22 revisions of Catalyst driver to reach this point, nVidia has only made 3 revisions for FX, they simply haven't had the time to write good drivers, FX is a fresh video card.
U are just one dumb fool, u name is atiwhore. |
Well let me ask you this before you start calling people names.. I want to see your proof because i have given mine and your just making yourself stupider each time. FX is not a fresh new card it came out with 5800 which blew then it came out with the family package the 5200, 5600 etc.. and then it came with a 5900. All those cards don't beat the 9800. The 9800 is new do you think it needed a better driver no because the hardware already set it straight for the driver. You think hardware doesn't make the performance but the instructions from the drivers? So if I lets say took out the BUS of a 9800 wouldn't that need to perform well? I mean BUS is really important for game speeds and processing of visuals on the screen. And lets say I took out the fan.. wouldn't you need that to stabilize the card? Software is there to guide it but it won't make it better then it should. You can go so high on the software where there is a point you have to make a new card. So what Nvidia is doing is trying to trick the card to performing better.. thats what they did with the first FX which they considered a 9700 slayer.. which err wrong did not slay it.
And 22 revisions is a lot of bs your just making numbers I want to see proof about 22 revisiosn from that of 3 revisions of the nvidia drivers. I think its the other way around. You don't read that much do you? I mean did you even look carefully at the benchmarks and the drivers above? OPEN YOUR EYES!! And "haven't had the time to write good drivers".. LOL now your just imagining things. If nvidia can make all those cards in a few months then they can make GOOD drivers for it. You wouldn't want to have a hardware without GOOD software would you now? |
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| yujie__ |
| quote: | Originally posted by AZCA
ok, FX is getting 35.4 and 9800 PRO with 128 36.6, wow, man, u get an extra frame, that beats FX badly, FX is behind by 0.000001 %, wow. |
i see you cant make your point. you cant provide real world proof. all you say is BS. what point dont you get? nvidia have more driver leaks than ati any year since the release of the FX. each one get worst and worst IQ and higher score. they even violated there own driver quality assurance. the real score are the ones with WHQL drivers not beta drivers. if you cant see it you are bigger POS than i thought |
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| TuanAnh213 |
| quote: | Originally posted by AZCA
I recommend:
ASUS A7N8X DELUXE motherboard, the best without any questiosn with all the features and only around ~125$
AMD XP 2500+ BARTON -> then you will overclock it to 2800+ very easily, simply by changing the multiplier in BIOS from 11 to 12.5, very easy
RAM, get 2 x 256 sticks of preferably Kingston or Crucial or other good known brand, make sure u RAM is low latency (timings 5-2-2-2) (CL=2.0), not CL=2.5
VIDEO, don't buy 9600 PRO, it's misleading, if you chose ATI, go for 9500 PRO or 9700 PRO, or even 9700 (you can flash BIOS and it will become 9700 PRO). ATI's a very cheap on ebay.com
if you need new HD, get WD (western digital) , some 7200 rpm, 2 meg cache will do, 8 megs cache ones perform exactly the same, no difference.
Also, I would recommend getting a FULL-tower good case with good power supply, like Antec or ENERMAX.
good luck. |
too late...i already got the 9600 and judging by this thread i'll be quite satisfied with the 9600 |
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| ThaDevil |
| Whoever needs a video card just get an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, its just as fast as a 9800 Pro (maybe a tiny bit slower, but definatly not a noticable diffrence). |
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| TheDemon |
| quote: | Originally posted by AZCA
u are just one huge lamer who has no understanding whatsoever about computers.
Hardware my friend cannot do anything, it is simply silicon with some metal and plastic around it, and what makes it useful ARE INSTRUCTIONS, computer code which tells hardware what to do and how to do it. And optimized code is critical to performance of any HARDWARE.
ATI has gone through 22 revisions of Catalyst driver to reach this point, nVidia has only made 3 revisions for FX, they simply haven't had the time to write good drivers, FX is a fresh video card.
U are just one dumb fool, u name is atiwhore. |
Of course Ati went through 22 revision, cause the Radeon is still a new chipset for them and they keep updating the drivers to ensure maximum compatiblity. while the Fx5900 is basically a geforce core which Nvidia has been using since for many years. |
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| Ste |
doom III mainly because the screenshots are already as scarey as it was playing doom when i was about 9 years old :haha:
however i loved halflife for the interactive movie esque single player plot line and attention to small details so i cant tell yet.
however in the end ill probs like them both as much! |
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