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To tell the truth, or lie. (pg. 9)
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by m0sh
Why would I risk on myself by lying to a police officer?
I can't lie to a person when I see him , I'm just a good person and I can't do it...if you lie you will eat yourself everyday and maybe someone she will find out and it will be much worse. |
You're not risking anything. If the cop doesn't have a radar the only way he can bust you is by tricking you into admitting that you were speeding. If he didn't have his speed gun on, then as long as you keep insisting that you weren't speeding by that much, it's your word against his... I always believed this, and a few weeks had it confirmed by a law proffessor. If he did have his gun and got you speeding than when he accuses you of lying say you honestly thought you weren't speeding. Zero risk, as opposed to you admitting you were speeding and copping a fine for sure.
As for not being able to lie... that is a huge disadvantage in life. There are many situations in life in which it is important to be able to lie. The guilt dies down quickly, and the more practice you have the less it shows itself in the future.
And finally to all the people who said that she'll know even if he doesn't tell her... that's BS. I have plenty of friends who a) cheated once on their partners without them finding out; and b)had several relationships going at the same time without any of their partners ever finding out that they weren't the only ones.
How you pull it off depends on how good a lier you are. Judging by GelatinPuffs posts, I would guess that he could pull it off. Again, I'd suggest that if there is no way that she can find out, just don't tell her. |
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| astroboy |
OK now i've actually read the whole thread... and I'm not pissed off. I can't believe you guys "boo hooo I put so much emotion and hard work into making a reply that took me 2 inutes to type out"... Who cares! That's what OT forums are about : killing time.
I'd say he found a great way to see people's points of view... Long term relationships always run into tough problems and this one is one of the toughest. This thread brought out some great opinions, which probably wouldn't have been brought out if he had posted a poll. Granted he could've worded his hypothetical in a way that was more obvious and his reply to people's skepticism was a bit abrupt, maybe even rude... but still nothing that warrants the kind of response he got.
The mere notion that some people have so little control of their emotions that they threaten physical violence over a few wasted minutes typing is ridiculous. Especially the guys... didn't your dads ever teach you that a man retains control over his emotions even in adverse circumstances... not to mention stupid petty like this. |
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| GelatinPufF |
| quote: | Originally posted by SuperFarStucker
Anyone who would have used their brain would have realized nobody words their own personal accounts from a different perspective and they are never articulated like hypothetical works of fantasy. Call it blindingly obvious :) Look at all the ambiguity in his posts. |
Well I’m quiet happy that no one really realized it was a hypothetical situation. Even though there were a few wankers who resorted to making personal attacks against me instead of answering what was asked, overall, there were a few exceptional points(namely from people who have been faced with a similar situation). Anyway, cheers for being one of the few not to get pissed off at me :D
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
It seems you still haven't understood what I've been trying to tell you over my last two posts. I assume this is due to you being either just plain stupid or in denial. Either way, I'm sick of trying to drill some sense into your skull, so have a nice life. |
Oh no, I clearly understood the trivial meander that you spouted out of your ass over your last two posts, it’s just that I didn’t give enough of a to dignify your statements with a response. :)
| quote: | Originally posted by Ian^
Right..... lets try to put some perspective on this
Maybe you did 'fool' everyone, or maybe you only said that because you got the replies that you did so tried denying it, either way the question is do you have that sort of ability to pull it off like you're saying ? I really doubt it, if you've enjoyed baiting people and that's what gets you off then fine, you join a great number of people in the 'loser' category, but the majority of advice given was true, you can't with people like that, be it with another girl, or a mind with members here, and expect to come out of it smelling of roses. People were giving honest opinions and if you did do as you 'said' then they had every right to be harsh, but trying to laugh it all off now won't get you anywhere but a one way ticket to no-friendsville... |
Awww, no-friendsville. -goes and sits in the dark corner of his room, with his knees drawn up into his chest, and depressingly rocks back and forth over the fact he has no internet friends-
Boo-hoo. I now have truly nothing to live for :rolleyes:
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
I think the way this turned out is kind of appropriate for the thread ... he opted to lie :).
Jesus who cares if it was hypothetical or not. If the thread were stated to be hypothetical from the beginning would anybody's advice have been any different? If so then it's good that it wasn't stated in the beginning in order to get some honest answers. Jesus, I learned one thing ... rob people of their drama and they turn on you like a pack of wolves. :nervous: |
Sad yet true :nervous:
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
OK now i've actually read the whole thread... and I'm not pissed off. I can't believe you guys "boo hooo I put so much emotion and hard work into making a reply that took me 2 inutes to type out"... Who cares! That's what OT forums are about : killing time. |
Exactly! Another person with some sense! But perhaps we need to start handing out band aids and tissues just to be sure? :stongue:
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
I'd say he found a great way to see people's points of view... Long term relationships always run into tough problems and this one is one of the toughest. This thread brought out some great opinions, which probably wouldn't have been brought out if he had posted a poll. Granted he could've worded his hypothetical in a way that was more obvious and his reply to people's skepticism was a bit abrupt, maybe even rude... but still nothing that warrants the kind of response he got. |
Even if this thread were to begin with the words “THIS IS A HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION” in large size 23 font, and was then followed by some sort of disclaimer stating how I am in no way in this situation myself, people would have still jumped to their own conclusions, and thought it was me in the situation(perhaps even more so). :rolleyes:
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
The mere notion that some people have so little control of their emotions that they threaten physical violence over a few wasted minutes typing is ridiculous. Especially the guys... didn't your dads ever teach you that a man retains control over his emotions even in adverse circumstances... not to mention stupid petty like this. |
Physical violence? :stongue::stongue:
Anyway, cheers to those all those people who didn’t take this thread seriously enough to go off at me :D |
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| Slylee |
| i'm starting to believe that it was all hypothetical...because after reading all of GelatinPuff's posts, i find it really hard to believe that he would have a girlfriend anyway.:p |
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| SuperFarStucker |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
You're not risking anything. If the cop doesn't have a radar the only way he can bust you is by tricking you into admitting that you were speeding. If he didn't have his speed gun on, then as long as you keep insisting that you weren't speeding by that much, it's your word against his... I always believed this, and a few weeks had it confirmed by a law proffessor. If he did have his gun and got you speeding than when he accuses you of lying say you honestly thought you weren't speeding. Zero risk, as opposed to you admitting you were speeding and copping a fine for sure.
As for not being able to lie... that is a huge disadvantage in life. There are many situations in life in which it is important to be able to lie. The guilt dies down quickly, and the more practice you have the less it shows itself in the future.
And finally to all the people who said that she'll know even if he doesn't tell her... that's BS. I have plenty of friends who a) cheated once on their partners without them finding out; and b)had several relationships going at the same time without any of their partners ever finding out that they weren't the only ones.
How you pull it off depends on how good a lier you are. Judging by GelatinPuffs posts, I would guess that he could pull it off. Again, I'd suggest that if there is no way that she can find out, just don't tell her. |
It isn't a huge disadvantage for a couple of reasons. For starters, integrity or lack thereof carries through in everything you do. People who lie about stuff tend to lie with a great consistency. It shows what kind of person they are to anyone that is close to them. That being said, I'd never date a habitual liar :)
Not saying I've never lied in my life but I would say it's a pretty rare occurance :) I can't stand people that when they open their mouth you have to question what they're saying. |
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| Slylee |
i wasn't mad about wasting a post or my emotions...i agree that even if we knew it was hypothetical, our opinions would still be the same. i think everyone is just annoyed by gelatinpuff because he's getting too technical and implying that we all overlooked something very obvious...like we are stupid for doing so, and everyone is getting defensive... *SHOCK*:eek:
now i'm going to wait for someone (or gelatinpuff) to say something to the effect of, "did i SAY you are stupid for overlooking the obvious? NOOO...if you go back about 20 posts, i simply said..."
i give up. this thread is getting dumber and dumber...and i'm dumb for posting in it as much as i did...
peace out |
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| {b.s.e.} |
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Astroboy's
As for not being able to lie... that is a huge disadvantage in life. There are many situations in life in which it is important to be able to lie. The guilt dies down quickly, and the more practice you have the less it shows itself in the future. |
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It isn't a huge disadvantage for a couple of reasons. For starters, integrity or lack thereof carries through in everything you do. People who lie about stuff tend to lie with a great consistency. It shows what kind of person they are to anyone that is close to them. That being said, I'd never date a habitual liar |
SFS' first. The word 'tend' is a lot like 'generally'. Cops tend to pull you over when you're speeding. A lie here and there certainly is not a statement of character, or ensures that lies will be told again. Everything is based on the human which the lie pertains to. If you use a lie as an emergency escape from John Q Law's money grubbing hand's then by all means, lie ten times to the cops. :p You should never lie to the ones you love, it's just a mean and unhonest thing to do.
Astroboy, I agree with you, a poker face and a bluff in life can win the pot. :happy2: |
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| politicsofdancin |
ok..i know lieing to your gf is the easy way out. like everyone is saying, can you handle that guilty feeling everytime natalie looks into your eyes? everytime you make love to her, you have it in your head that you basically slept with someone else? or everytime she tells you , "your the best"?
now sit back and think about this for a sec? you are pretty much in a hard situation here. first off, im going to ask you this as well. if you "really" love her, why did you cheat on her? now, you made your mistake. you can't be selfish about it. you must pay! your being selfish if you keep this from her. i say you have to tell her. yes, she will flip out. yes she will tell you "i don't ever want to see you ever again, its over! but at least you were being a "man" about it. you faced your problems. she will have to think things thru, and if has that heart to forgive you, then you really have the best girlfriend in the world.
goodluck
indy |
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| m0sh |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
it's your word against his...
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and if you go to court you lose cuz his word counts more...well that's at least whats going on here.
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
As for not being able to lie... that is a huge disadvantage in life. There are many situations in life in which it is important to be able to lie. The guilt dies down quickly, and the more practice you have the less it shows itself in the future.
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:rolleyes:
I couldn't lie to someone I know in his face,I think that who ever does that should die (not really) but this is one of the most ugly things ever.
I somtimes lie (white lies) but hardly...I think I lie somtimes just can't remember |
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| u4ea:[soulstar] |
| if the love was unconditional, the act is forgivable. |
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| {b.s.e.} |
| :D the act was hypothetical. |
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| beema |
You're a goddamn ing idiot, and I hope she dumps your sorry ass.
Like someone said earlier, if you really loved her as much as you said you do, you would've made damn sure that this never could've happened. Being drunk is no excuse. |
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