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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
Well, we dont have a choice because none of the qualified presidential candidtates are running. I hope Guiliani runs for president. |
Yeah, that'd be great...
I guess you'd like all the clubs in the country to be shut down like the NYC ones were while he was mayor. |
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| trunks1022 |
| left the office at 4:30 am on thursday... stupendous! |
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| Blake |
| quote: | Originally posted by trunks1022
left the office at 4:30 am on thursday... stupendous! |
Hope you got some decent overtime for that. :o
... Voting 3rd party doesn't hurt. It just doesn't help either. Being a republican I'd have no problem voting for Guliani, or any other top republican candidate as long as it isn't Jeb Bush!! OMG not 12 years of Bush. :nervous: I don't wanna have to waste my vote on another Kerry just to spite the Bush family. :( |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blake
... Voting 3rd party doesn't hurt. It just doesn't help either. |
Voting 3rd party would help to broaden the incredibly narrow scope of the debates. Nader and Buchannon were the only candidates asking any poignant questions.
| quote: | Buchanan took issue with the make-up of the current presidential debate commission, saying, "Every single member ... is a Republican or a Democrat. Not one member is a member of the Libertarian Party or the Reform Party or Green Party or the Constitution Party."
"The purpose of this debate commission," he claimed, "is to shut off real debate, to squelch true dissent, to segregate third parties to where they cannot compete and to control the White House in perpetuity for the two national existing parties."
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| quote: | Ron Crickenberger, political director of the Libertarian Party, agreed with Nader, saying, "The Debates Commission should offer voters a broad spectrum of legitimate candidates, instead of acting as kingmaker among a handful of establishment candidates."
"The lesson is clear: If we want more voters to participate in the political process, we have to open up the system and the debates to a wider array of legitimate candidates," said Crickenberger. "The future success of American democracy demands it."
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics...L20020218c.html
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| quote: | | ...Nader has repeatedly accused the CPD of being a deplorable, exclusionary tool of the two-party duopoly, performing an antidemocratic screening function in our system, and forcing excluded candidates to the sidelines in media attention and public appraisal. |
| quote: | The Commission on Presidential Debates was formed in 1987 to replace the non-partisan League of Women Voters, which included independent candidate John Anderson in the first 1980 presidential debate and prohibited the major party candidates from selecting the debate panelists in 1984. Frank Fahrenkopf, then chairman of the Republican National Committee and now the leading lobbyist for the gambling industry, and Paul Kirk, then chairman of the Democratic National Committee and now a lobbyist for the pharmaceutical industry, created The Commission on Presidential Debates.
Financed by Anheuser-Busch, Philip Morris and other multinational corporations, the Commission on Presidential Debates has excluded popular third-party candidates, most of whom are critical of the Big Business agenda. Although he received $29 million in public funds, captured 19 percent of the popular vote in the previous 1992 election, and 76 percent of eligible voters wanted him included, Ross Perot was excluded by the two parties from the 1996 presidential debates. Both Pat Buchanan, who collected over $12 million in federal matching funds, and Ralph Nader, who attracted the largest paid audiences during his campaign appearances, were excluded from the 2000 presidential debates, although in a national poll, 64 percent of eligible voters wanted them included.
http://www.gp.org/press/pr_04_16_02.html
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| sw1 |
| I started work at 11:30am and left work at 2:30am the previous Sunday, had the Monday off, and worked from 9:30am until 1:30am on the Tuesday. So I decided to come in at 10:00am on the Wednesday following. |
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| Blake |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancer-X
Voting 3rd party would help to broaden the incredibly narrow scope of the debates. Nader and Buchannon were the only candidates asking any poignant questions.
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Well, that certainly gave me a lot to think about. ... If things are set up to exclude the 3rd party then ... ??? :( ... I suppose I'd consider voting 3rd if I thought there was hope of them having significant infulence. If I had to choose, I'd probably even vote 3rd before Democrat. The way you put it though, it seems like it might be out of the voters hands. As a young person and fairly new voter I try to stay up on things. Clearly I have a ways to go heh. :rolleyes: |
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| Vlad |
| Ive decided to go on an incredibly heavy and difficult diet. I hope I can pull it off. Alot of you saw me shrink, and Ive put on a few pounds back, now Im convinced to finish the job. I was as low as 190 (I used to weigh 240 for those that dont know), I went up to 200, from here on, my goal is 175. |
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| rudEgirL |
| wo0...is this thread dead now?? haven't been around for like 5 months...what did I miss?:wtf::p :p |
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| Vlad |
| Apparently not much. :p |
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| rudEgirL |
| nah I can see that...:p ;) |
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| Miss Bliss |
| Going to pick John up at Charles de Gaulle airport. :crazy: :toocool: :toothless :D :D :D :) :) :happy2: :happy2: |
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| *~LiSa-LoO~* |
| On average I get 4 hours of sleep a night. I go to bed at 3 and wake up at 7. I don't know how I do it! I'm such a night hawk. I'm most productive at night. |
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