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| arctic |
| quote: | Originally posted by butterfly
or didnt exist. |
Hey, you're talking to an atheist here. :thepirate |
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| TrAnCeAkI |
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i dont like cut men!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Ian^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by TrAnCeAkI
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i dont like cut men!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Electronicmaji |
well even if you dont Beleive in God he beleives in you...
and its pretty hard not to listen to what God tells you when hes provided for you plenty of times before and also talks directly to you ...face to face... |
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| arctic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Electronicmaji
well even if you dont Beleive in God he beleives in you... |
Thanks for that riveting piece of information. 
| quote: | | and its pretty hard not to listen to what God tells you when hes provided for you plenty of times before and also talks directly to you ...face to face... |
Are you familiar with schizophrenia by any chance? :nervous:
It's one thing to hear voices in your head, but when you start talking to god face to face, it's time to seek help.
And LOL @ Ian, msn emoticons are teh pwn. |
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| Electronicmaji |
| the problem is that schizophrenia didnt happen 6000 years ago barely any mental illnesses happened they have only developed today because of war tragedy and other things...I really doubt its war probably some reason we cant figure out yet.. |
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| Tranceporter99 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Electronicmaji
the problem is that schizophrenia didnt happen 6000 years ago barely any mental illnesses happened they have only developed today because of war tragedy and other things...I really doubt its war probably some reason we cant figure out yet.. |
ok im with you partly on the god thing, but this dosent make any sense, there was war jsut as bad along time ago as now.
but arctic, all your lucifer is starting to piss me off |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Electronicmaji
well even if you dont Beleive in God he beleives in you...
and its pretty hard not to listen to what God tells you when hes provided for you plenty of times before and also talks directly to you ...face to face... |
Dude, when you talk to God it's faith, when God talks back, you're bordering on schizophrenia.
Speaking of which, it has nothing to do with war tragedies. Wars have occured for as long as the human race has existed, and the earlier you go back, the more apparent the violence and cruelty of the world. Mental illness has also existed for as long as records exist. They used to call it demonic possession, since the advent of psychology, terms like schizophrenia and psychosis have been coined to describe what we now recognise as various forms and manifestations of mental illness. |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
OK NOW YOU ARE REALLY CRAZY......
thank god :rolleyes: you live in a country with one of the highest murder rates. |
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| alffla |
| rofl wow the topic started from penises and now its about some god and religion and schizophrenia..!? WTF?!:crazy: |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
Please look at these two articles again and tell me there is no scientific methods, and that they weren't from PhD/MDs. I am yet to see any "evidence" to the contrary done in a controlled, scientific manner that would have me believe otherwise. I have heard very much rhetoric, with little to no substance. If this truly is not the case, and circumcision is such an obvious tragedy and detriment to human health, where is the overwhelming evidence from leading scientific researchers? Where is there proof from any throughly performed scientific research? It is easy to say that I am wrong, but I am still waiting for any evidence of that.
http://www.cirp.org/library/disease/UTI/to/
http://www.lib.umich.edu/taubman/re...choenEdgarJ.pdf |
Both studies completely fail to establish the slightest semblance of causality.
First of all, neither experiment conforms to the scientific method by possessing a single variable. Furthermore, both draw conclusions based on fallacious post hoc ergo propter hoc reasoning.
Dividing people up into two groups, and drawing conclusions based upon different frequencies of some event between the two groups is not science. If it were, it would be scientific fact that black people are genetically prone to commit crimes, living in Africa lowers your IQ, and having a penis reduces your risk of breast cancer. None of these are facts.
No one, upon objectively analyzing the data presented in either study, could come to the scientific conclusion that circumcision has medical benefits. It does not follow from the supporting body of evidence.
That's why the UTI studies have been classified as a miserable failure by the vast majority of the medical community.
http://faculty.washington.edu/gcd/C...N/v1n1.html#ab6
http://www.circumcision.org/benefits.htm
http://www.menweb.org/circintr.htm
http://www.cirp.org/library/disease/UTI/altschul/
http://www.acsh.org/publications/pr...904/circno.html
http://www.eskimo.com/~gburlin/mgm/facts.html
The list just goes on and on.
I have repeatedly and directly refuted the specific and inherently flawed methodology of the UTI/circumcision studies both by personally pointing out the fallacious reasoning which underlies these studies and by posting a myriad of links to the work of qualified professionals who have analyzed the data and also drawn the veracious conclusion that it does not support the hypothesis that circumcision reduces the risk of UTI. I have demonstrated the complete and utter failure of that research to establish any relationship whatsoever between urinary tract infections and circumcision. I have categorically and overwhelmingly refuted each and every argument which anyone has attempted to make in favor of this barbaric procedure.
Medical research indicates that circumcision produces no demonstrable benefit almost unilaterally. The few exceptions are demonstrably flawed, and I, as well as many others, have demonstrated their flaws time and time again. You can choose to ignore the truth - for whatever reason - and continue to believe that circumcision is a beneficial procedure despite the dearth of credible evidence to support that hypothesis. Alternately, you can choose to educate yourself about the reality of the procedure and realize the simple fact that, like all other forms of genital mutilation, it is a cruel, barbaric, and disgusting procedure which produces no benefit whatsoever, and which perpetuates itself only through cultural and religious tradition and widespread ignorance - such as your own. The choice is yours. I have neither the ability nor the desire to force your eyes open so that you can recognize the obvious truth of the matter. I have provided you with the resources necessary if you are genuinely interested in uncovering the truth about the purported UTI/circumcision relationship. You can use them and learn, or ignore them and remain ignorant. |
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