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Well We Knew It Was Bound To Come ... (pg. 5)
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| MoonMan |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjSway
Even though bad, the US pictures don't compare to that poor innocent man being beheaded by those f*ckers!:mad: |
They had to go one better the f***ing murderous pigs!!!!!!:whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: |
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| cfyoung4 |
| Wonders never cease. Hizbollah condemns the murder of Nick Berg. Link |
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| MisterOpus1 |
Just curious, since the Bush Admin. has recently boasted our justification for war to free the Iraqi people from the abuse and torture from Saddam (after not finding WMD, of course), since we are doing the same thing as Saddam, does this mean that Canada or Mexico can invade us?
Just curious. |
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| DjSway |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Just curious, since the Bush Admin. has recently boasted our justification for war to free the Iraqi people from the abuse and torture from Saddam (after not finding WMD, of course), since we are doing the same thing as Saddam, does this mean that Canada or Mexico can invade us?
Just curious. |
the answer is yes, thanks to Bush Americans all over the world are well liked and safe to travel.:stongue: |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjSway
the answer is yes, thanks to Bush Americans all over the world are well liked and safe to travel.:stongue: |
I really feel sorry for you guys.lets just hope Bush wont get re-elected again!! |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Just curious, since the Bush Admin. has recently boasted our justification for war to free the Iraqi people from the abuse and torture from Saddam (after not finding WMD, of course), since we are doing the same thing as Saddam, does this mean that Canada or Mexico can invade us?
Just curious. |
Your oversimplification of the two issues is stunning. To somehow equate the torture and murder of tens of thousands of Iraqis under the reign of Saddam to the humiliation of a handful under the watch of American prison guards leaves me quite literally stupified. It plays exactly into this urge by international media to vilify a nation based on the actions of a few and nominalize the actions of a previous regime in order to intensify the critique of a superpower (aka, sell their product). Maybe if you sit down and look at the sheer numbers seperating the two, you'll realize the error of your way. |
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| DjSway |
| Funny how one man can change the lives of thousands if not millions. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
Your oversimplification of the two issues is stunning. To somehow equate the torture and murder of tens of thousands of Iraqis under the reign of Saddam to the humiliation of a handful under the watch of American prison guards leaves me quite literally stupified. It plays exactly into this urge by international media to vilify a nation based on the actions of a few and nominalize the actions of a previous regime in order to intensify the critique of a superpower (aka, sell their product). Maybe if you sit down and look at the sheer numbers seperating the two, you'll realize the error of your way. |
Neo, don't you know my humor by now?
Of course it was an oversimplification, silly! I'm sorry you didn't catch it - I shoulda put an "[/end dripping sarcasm]" mark at the end.
C'mon, man!
But now that I look back on this, I think I did have a small minor point. Of course the numbers of the killed and the tortured don't even come close, but if the perception of "occupiers" and "torturers" grows more and more to the Iraqi people, the actual reality of the flawed comparison diminishes. And they will eventually see us in the same light as Saddam, reality notwithstanding.
Besides, it would be just another great moment in history to shift the blame on Canada, wouldn't it?:D |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
Your oversimplification of the two issues is stunning. To somehow equate the torture and murder of tens of thousands of Iraqis under the reign of Saddam to the humiliation of a handful under the watch of American prison guards leaves me quite literally stupified. It plays exactly into this urge by international media to vilify a nation based on the actions of a few and nominalize the actions of a previous regime in order to intensify the critique of a superpower (aka, sell their product). Maybe if you sit down and look at the sheer numbers seperating the two, you'll realize the error of your way. |
Well, Saddam didn't kill people who agreed with him, he just tortured and killed people who were actively working on disassemblement of the Iraqi state. I'm sure he'd be against his subordinates torturing loyal baathist footsoldier. If he'd let those people roam around freely, the situation would transform into a civil war which would end up in establishment of one or more islamic fundamentalist states, something that now seems to be emerging as a rather realistic possibility.
Now, as for the amount of torturing and killing, he's been there for 20 years. The americans are there about a year or so. So far there are, what, 10 000 civillian casualties caused by the US invasion? A good start if you ask me. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjSway
Funny how one man can change the lives of thousands if not millions. |
it is sad VERY sad:( |
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| malek |
how about listing the accomplishments of Saddam in Iraq against those made by the US in Iraq???
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| NYCTrancefan |
| quote: | Originally posted by cfyoung4
Wonders never cease. Hizbollah condemns the murder of Nick Berg. Link |
Err I was slightly surprised to read this too, with that said I believe that Hezbollah would have kept this guy hostage as some kind of leverage unlike what those clueless savages did to him. |
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