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| occrider |
I hope those soldiers get some serious time for provoking this crap ...
Video Seems to Show Beheading of American
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CAIRO, Egypt - A video posted Tuesday on an Islamic militant Web site showed the beheading of an American civilian in Iraq (news - web sites), and said the execution was carried out by an al-Qaida affiliated group to avenge the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers.
The video showed five men wearing headscarves and black ski masks, standing over a bound man in an orange jumpsuit — similar to a prisoner's uniform — who identified himself as Nick Berg, a U.S. contractor whose body was found on a highway overpass in Baghdad on Saturday.
"My name is Nick Berg, my father's name is Michael, my mother's name is Susan," the man said on the video. "I have a brother and sister, David and Sarah. I live in ... Philadelphia."
After reading a statement, the men were seen pulling the man to his side and putting a large knife to his neck. A scream sounded as the men cut his head off, shouting "Allahu Akbar!" — "God is great." They then held the head out before the camera.
Berg was a small-business owner from the Philadelphia suburbs, his family said Tuesday.
Berg's family said they knew their son had been decapitated, but didn't know the details of the killing. When told of the video by an Associated Press reporter, Berg's father, Michael, and his two siblings hugged and cried.
"I knew he was decapitated before. That manner is preferable to a long and torturous death. But I didn't want it to become public," Michael Berg said.
The video tape included a statement by one of the executioners:
"For the mothers and wives of American soldiers, we tell you that we offered the U.S. administration to exchange this hostage with some of the detainees in Abu Ghraib and they refused."
"So we tell you that the dignity of the Muslim men and women in Abu Ghraib and others is not redeemed except by blood and souls. You will not receive anything from us but coffins after coffins ... slaughtered in this way."
The video bore the title "Abu Musab al-Zarqawi shown slaughtering an American." It was unclear whether al-Zarqawi — a lieutenant of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) — was shown in the video, or was claiming responsibility for ordering the execution.
The Web site on which the video was posted is known as a clearing house for al-Qaida and Islamic extremist groups' statements and tapes.
The family of Berg, 26, of West Chester, Pa., said they were informed by the U.S. State Department on Monday that Berg was found dead near a highway overpass in Baghdad.
Berg's mother, Suzanne Berg, said her son was in Iraq as an independent businessman to help rebuild communication antennas. He had been missing since April 9, she said.
"He had this idea that he could help rebuild the infrastructure," she said.
The U.S. military Tuesday said an American civilian was found dead in Baghdad, but did not release his identity. State Department spokeswoman Susan Pittman said she couldn't release the name of the dead American, but said she not aware of more than one civilian found dead in recent days.
The military said there were signs of trauma to the body. Suzanne Berg said she was told her son's death was violent but did not want to discuss details.
Berg, who was in Baghdad from late December to Feb. 1, returned to Iraq in March. He didn't find any work and planned again to return home on March 30, but his daily communications home stopped on March 24. He later told his parents he was jailed by Iraqi officials at a checkpoint in Mosul.
"He was arrested and held without due process," his father, Michael Berg, told the Daily Local News of West Chester recently. "By the time he got out the whole area was inflamed with violence.
The FBI (news - web sites) on March 31 interviewed Berg's parents in West Chester. Jerri Williams, a spokeswoman for the Philadelphia FBI office, told The Philadelphia Inquirer the agency had been "asked to interview the parents regarding Mr. Berg's purpose in Iraq."
On April 5, the Bergs filed suit in federal court in Philadelphia, contending that their son was being held illegally by the U.S. military. The next day Berg was released. He told his parents he hadn't been mistreated.
The Bergs last heard from their son April 9, when he said he would come home by way of Jordan, Turkey or Kuwait. But by then, hostilities in Iraq had escalated.
Suzanne Berg on Tuesday said she was told her son's body would be transported to Kuwait and then to Dover, Del. She said the family had been trying for weeks to learn where their son was but that federal officials had not been helpful.
"I went through this with them for weeks," she said. "I basically ended up doing most of the investigating myself." |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
I hope those soldiers get some serious time for provoking this crap ...
Video Seems to Show Beheading of American
3 minutes ago Add Top Stories - AP to My Yahoo!
CAIRO, Egypt - A video posted Tuesday on an Islamic militant Web site showed the beheading of an American civilian in Iraq (news - web sites), and said the execution was carried out by an al-Qaida affiliated group to avenge the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers.
The video showed five men wearing headscarves and black ski masks, standing over a bound man in an orange jumpsuit — similar to a prisoner's uniform — who identified himself as Nick Berg, a U.S. contractor whose body was found on a highway overpass in Baghdad on Saturday.
"My name is Nick Berg, my father's name is Michael, my mother's name is Susan," the man said on the video. "I have a brother and sister, David and Sarah. I live in ... Philadelphia."
After reading a statement, the men were seen pulling the man to his side and putting a large knife to his neck. A scream sounded as the men cut his head off, shouting "Allahu Akbar!" — "God is great." They then held the head out before the camera......... |
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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
isn't he jewish? |
you disgusting .
so predictale and so irrelevant.
unbelievable :rolleyes: |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
you disgusting .
so predictale and so irrelevant.
unbelievable :rolleyes: |
You're awfully quick to pass judgement aren't you?
Anyways,
is all that needs to be said. |
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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
You're awfully quick to pass judgement aren't you?
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Well I'm basing my "judgement" on experience with certain people during a long course of time in this forum. This specific individual seems to be pathologically obsessed with pointing out that certain names are jewish - that being his entire "point" already. Not only stupid and destructive, but extremely offending. And why the hell am I justifying myself before you...
*off to watch 24* |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
Well I'm basing my "judgement" on experience with certain people during a long course of time in this forum. This specific individual seems to be pathologically obsessed with pointing out that certain names are jewish - that being his entire "point" already.
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Well then post some examples of this and try to be constructive instead of just flaming away like this. Not everyone knows his posts as well as you, you know.
| quote: | | And why the hell am I justifying myself before you... |
My goodness, aren't we on the defensive?
You just passed a major judgement on malek and called him a "disgusting " without any sort of explanation. I think that calls for some clarification of your basis for flaming him in this way, don't you agree? |
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| NYCTrancefan |
I am not shocked at this at all, its done essentially to scare the living out of people, what these s never grasp is that you can capture people and behead them like livestock but good always prevails over evil. I don't view these perpetrators as Iraqi freedom fighters, because a freedom fighter would have had some bit of dignity left in them to keep the person as a hostage.
Whatever the circustances were for their actions there will be many who agree with them, that is humanity throughout time, hence my lack of shock at this event. This is similar to the Russian soldiers experience in Chechnya especially if captured by outside Islamic fighters, the Chechens will hold you for ransom, but the Islamic mercenaries will just cut your throat to the back of the neck till your head comes off. |
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| Shakka |
| Question: So we have Al Quaeda operatives beheading an American for actions that happened in the "War on Iraq" portion of the War on Terror. Is there not a clear/evident connection here between Al Quaeda and Iraq?:conf: |
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| Dervish |
| quote: | | Originally posted by NYCTrancefan good always prevails over evil |
Thats unfortunatly not always true. But agree with the your post.
These people who will kill someone in cold blood to further their aims (note the soft target by the way not a member of the military) are just thugs. They do not represent anything but hate, contempt and personal insecurity. |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
Question: So we have Al Quaeda operatives beheading an American for actions that happened in the "War on Iraq" portion of the War on Terror. Is there not a clear/evident connection here between Al Quaeda and Iraq?:conf: |
A post-facto connection yes. But the fact that Al-Qaeda activities in Iraq are currentely at an all time high is not necessarily indicative of a strong relation prior to the war.
Sigh ... I can already see links for the video floating around the web. I think I'm going to pass on this one. |
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| Dervish |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
Question: So we have Al Quaeda operatives beheading an American for actions that happened in the "War on Iraq" portion of the War on Terror. Is there not a clear/evident connection here between Al Quaeda and Iraq?:conf: |
The only connection is that Al Quaeda is in Iraq. In other words the UK could be said to be linked to Al Quaeda probebly pretty strongly actually if you wanted to look at it in thouse terms. |
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