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Well We Knew It Was Bound To Come ... (pg. 6)
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| Massive84 |
a guy on msn just send me this video low quality
i watched it yah, and you know why? coz it reminds me how ugly war is.
i recommand you to see it, be a man and face the facts, the americans started this, can't bare the fruits out of this war?> then fuk off, keep spamming all you want with your useless facts..
war makes victims and he was one of them, and it was sad i don't wish anyone to die in a burtal way.
1 more thing, i don't get it why the arabs shouldn't show this? i saw on an arabic news sender how american shooting 4 people down with a machine gun in a night misson..
it's a war, what do you expect? rose garden and honey :rolleyes: |
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| imokruok |
A large number of Iraqis are simply indifferent to US occupation. There is no military presence in many cities, and millions of Iraqis are going about their daily lives. By showing the video, you have the potential to turn people who are indifferent into people who actively support the US going after insurgents.
One note about Berg. Not that I'm blaming the guy for his own death here, but when his father tried to lay blame on the US government for not protecting him, he should have paid more attention to what his son was doing in Iraq. He was there on his own, and was entitled to no protection.
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May 12, 2004
WASHINGTON (AP) — The FBI warned Nicholas Berg shortly before his disappearance that Iraq was too volatile a place for unprotected American civilians but he turned down a State Department offer to fly him home, U.S. officials said Wednesday.
Berg was detained by Iraqi police at a checkpoint in the northern city of Mosul on March 24 and was released April 6.
FBI agents interviewed Berg three times while he was in the custody of Iraqi police, said a senior FBI official who spoke on condition of anonymity. The agents told him he was in a dangerous place and could be harmed, the official said.
A few days after his release, a U.S. consular officer offered Berg a chance to fly back to America but he declined, spokeswoman Kelly Shannon said.
"He told the consular officer that he planned to travel over land to Kuwait and would call the family from there," Shannon said.
Berg's family in West Chester, Pa., has said they did not hear from him after April 9. His decapitated body was discovered Saturday by U.S. military personnel.
A video posted Tuesday on a Web site linked to al-Qaida showed Berg beheaded by a group that said it was to avenge the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers.
The FBI will lead the investigation into Berg's death along with military, intelligence and other U.S. agencies.
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| NYCTrancefan |
| quote: | Originally posted by imokruok
A large number of Iraqis are simply indifferent to US occupation. There is no military presence in many cities, and millions of Iraqis are going about their daily lives. By showing the video, you have the potential to turn people who are indifferent into people who actively support the US going after insurgents.
One note about Berg. Not that I'm blaming the guy for his own death here, but when his father tried to lay blame on the US government for not protecting him, he should have paid more attention to what his son was doing in Iraq. He was there on his own, and was entitled to no protection. |
I saw his family is laying claim that the U.S. is in someway responsible for this, by that rationale it could be easily said that he should not have been in Iraq in the first place knowing the dangers, that simple if his family attempts to blame America in any capacity for the death of their son.
If I go to Iraq I know what the dangers are, no fools paradise, moreover they sued to have him released from custody and that is what happened. |
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| rainbow_marble |
i hope when we find those bastards responsible, that we crucify them upside down.
to everyone defending the position of how WAR is the cause of this... you! Al queda's cruelty to the innocent began before the war even started (9/11 you dumbs). Besides, it would have been bad had this been military personnel (still breaks a load of Geneva Convention rules), but it was a completely regular guy who was just murdered due to the fact that he was American. I hope you can realize a war SHOULD be fought against people who will commit acts like this against someone just because of their nationality. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by rainbow_marble
i hope when we find those bastards responsible, that we crucify them upside down.
to everyone defending the position of how WAR is the cause of this... you! Al queda's cruelty to the innocent began before the war even started (9/11 you dumbs). Besides, it would have been bad had this been military personnel (still breaks a load of Geneva Convention rules), but it was a completely regular guy who was just murdered due to the fact that he was American. I hope you can realize a war SHOULD be fought against people who will commit acts like this against someone just because of their nationality. |
ya lets goo nuke the whole middle east and get rid of them:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
seriously tho STFU and stop watching CNN. |
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| djshan |
| quote: | Originally posted by rainbow_marble
i hope when we find those bastards responsible, that we crucify them upside down.
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if it was my style, i would get hot irons and rub them all over their faces, then i would chop their arms off, make them feel the pain nd scream their fukn faces off, and the burn them alive or chop their heads off. oh and i can go on with more cruelty, but theres so much.thats wat i call a real "capital punishment", and i dont understand why most people reject and think its better to just get a needle and put it into the arms of the criminal and make him go to sleep.. i dont think crime will be prevented like that... and at the same time im saying that innconets should not recieve capital punishment, its only meant for criminals. the purpose of capital punishment is to prevent crime, not to create crime.:whip: |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by rainbow_marble
i hope when we find those bastards responsible, that we crucify them upside down.
to everyone defending the position of how WAR is the cause of this... you! Al queda's cruelty to the innocent began before the war even started (9/11 you dumbs). Besides, it would have been bad had this been military personnel (still breaks a load of Geneva Convention rules), but it was a completely regular guy who was just murdered due to the fact that he was American. I hope you can realize a war SHOULD be fought against people who will commit acts like this against someone just because of their nationality. |
You will never find them... they are everywhere and are created by your governments corporate crusades in the islamic world.
Its sad that this is a surprise for you.. this is reality.. deal with it bitch |
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
You will never find them... they are everywhere and are created by your governments |
Sounds like a movie plot. |
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| Palestinian |
| quote: | Originally posted by djshan
if it was my style, i would get hot irons and rub them all over their faces, then i would chop their arms off, make them feel the pain nd scream their fukn faces off, and the burn them alive or chop their heads off. oh and i can go on with more cruelty, but theres so much.thats wat i call a real "capital punishment", and i dont understand why most people reject and think its better to just get a needle and put it into the arms of the criminal and make him go to sleep.. i dont think crime will be prevented like that... and at the same time im saying that innconets should not recieve capital punishment, its only meant for criminals. the purpose of capital punishment is to prevent crime, not to create crime.:whip: |
Then perhaps you support Saudi Arabian style of capital punishment. Cutting off the hands, fingers, stoning, or beheading. That should prevent crime! :rolleyes: |
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| Massive84 |
| quote: | Originally posted by rainbow_marble
i hope when we find those bastards responsible, that we crucify them upside down.
to everyone defending the position of how WAR is the cause of this... you! Al queda's cruelty to the innocent began before the war even started (9/11 you dumbs). Besides, it would have been bad had this been military personnel (still breaks a load of Geneva Convention rules), but it was a completely regular guy who was just murdered due to the fact that he was American. I hope you can realize a war SHOULD be fought against people who will commit acts like this against someone just because of their nationality. |
geneva convention rules?
HAHAHA joke right? usa don't even follow those anyomore, i saw on TV that usa said since the war on terrorism is different than normal wars
as long as usa people torture , i don't see why there shouldn't be any revenge?
and please..post now some solid proof of what the al queda has to do with iraq? ya collin moand some crap about it, but never saw any proof..
then you got to war with the excuse..you say WMD, don't give inspecters the time to check, while iraq giving fully acces to EVERYTHING!, but noo usa went without UN premession to war.
no WMD found, so you capture saddam, act hereoic and , but i hear no more yay! from the usa, because all this turned out in to a fiasco.
and as for murdering americans on sight, hey am not pro that, but i do understand why it happens, and here is my question.
Do you really think, that after torturing , killing thousands of innocents with your so called smartbombs, making thousand childeren handicaps for the rest of their life, do you really think people would love you? or will there be a kinda hatred and revenge anger? JUST LIKE THE USA HAD, WHEN THE WTC GOT HIT.
it's human my friend, like i said these are the fruits..deal with it.
and next time don't support war, if you don't like what you see :rolleyes:. |
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| arctic |
| quote: | Originally posted by djshan
if it was my style, i would get hot irons and rub them all over their faces, then i would chop their arms off, make them feel the pain nd scream their fukn faces off, and the burn them alive or chop their heads off. |
Great, so you'd solve the problem by lowering yourself to their level, and in the process make the world's opinion of the US even worse than it already is. Sounds like a plan!
| quote: | | oh and i can go on with more cruelty, but theres so much.thats wat i call a real "capital punishment" |
Oh, I'm sure that you could go on, but somehow I don't think that i could stomach any more of this insane spiel.
| quote: | | and i dont understand why most people reject and think its better to just get a needle and put it into the arms of the criminal and make him go to sleep.. |
Because if you have capital punishment in place (which is a terrible idea anyhow, but if it is in place) it's the most humane method. Beating up or killing the killer doesn't solve anything - it achieves absolutely nothing in the end, it merely satisfies a sadistic desire to inflict pain and suffering upon others.
| quote: | | i dont think crime will be prevented like that... |
Correct, capital punishment is a terrible method of deterrence, it essentially does nothing to discourage people from committing capital offences.
| quote: | | and at the same time im saying that innconets should not recieve capital punishment, its only meant for criminals. |
In that case you should be 100% opposed to capital punishment then, because as it stands we do not have a utopian judicial system in place, and innocent people have and continue to die. Until we have a perfect justice system, this will always be the case.
| quote: | | the purpose of capital punishment is to prevent crime, not to create crime.:whip: |
That's all very nice, so why does it invariably end up doing the exact opposite? |
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| a-L.MSI|BLiTz |
if i was iraqi and i saw my homeland invaded by americans, possibly sticking a broom stick up my dads ass and killing my mum and sister with a "smart bomb" i´d ing kill as many invaders until i´d be shot myself.
yes saddams regime was evil....but what happened now is worse! the problem could have been delt with increased UN pressure and more time for the inspectors etc since in the end there were no WMD´s found. and iraq has absolutely NO corelation to the bombin of the WTC, plus you have to consider that the people that DID bomb the wtc had a huge amount of hatrige against the usa. and i don´t think it came from nowhere right? |
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