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Jayx1
what budget surplus? Ontario has a $6 billion deficit despite the taxes that mcguinty imposed. He's almost as reckless as bob rae was with his $9 Billion deficits.
naesean3
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Originally posted by Jayx1
what budget surplus? Ontario has a $6 billion deficit despite the taxes that mcguinty imposed. He's almost as reckless as bob rae was with his $9 Billion deficits.


federally - ontario needs that money back
naesean3
we need more money funneled into Ontario - basically is what I am saying.......one our Provincial STRONGHOLDS is ailing - if our Mother wont help her baby so to speak.....
Jayx1
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Originally posted by naesean3
federally - ontario needs that money back


dont count on it... they are busy buying votes out east with it.
naesean3
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Originally posted by Jayx1
what budget surplus? Ontario has a $6 billion deficit despite the taxes that mcguinty imposed. He's almost as reckless as bob rae was with his $9 Billion deficits.


we were also left a considerable deficit from Eves tories ....no?????
Jayx1
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Originally posted by naesean3
we were also left a considerable deficit from Eves tories ....no?????


i believe it was $2 billion and it was blamed mainly on the mad cow and sars crises of that year. The liberals have managed to make it $6 billion and counting. They can no longer play the blame game since they have raised taxes twice now and yet the deficit has grown 3 times. The problem is that tax money is gushing like water since they took over.
naesean3
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Originally posted by Jayx1
dont count on it... they are busy buying votes out east with it.



I hate how we are trying to satisfy a dissident Quebec........none of this SPonsorhip Scandal woulda happened - at least not to this extent - that is what we should be focusing on in the supposed reason as to why this happened - SUPPOSEDLY to KEEP QUEBEC HAPPY and stay with Canada.....??
Jayx1
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Originally posted by naesean3
I hate how we are trying to satisfy a dissident Quebec........none of this SPonsorhip Scandal woulda happened - at least not to this extent - that is what we should be focusing on in the supposed reason as to why this happened - SUPPOSEDLY to KEEP QUEBEC HAPPY and stay with Canada.....??


the sponsorship program had nothing to do with quebec. It was just a guise they used to steal our money. Thats all.
naesean3
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Originally posted by Jayx1
i believe it was $2 billion and it was blamed mainly on the mad cow and sars crises of that year. The liberals have managed to make it $6 billion and counting. They can no longer play the blame game since they have raised taxes twice now and yet the deficit has grown 3 times. The problem is that tax money is gushing like water since they took over.


Mad cow...........the states sure ed us on that one.....My friends family from back home - cattle farming for 30 years - gone!!

There has been a lot of money pumped to them.....but not enough - and beef is a VITAL industry in Canada - they waited too loong....IMO
Jayx1
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Originally posted by naesean3
Mad cow...........the states sure ed us on that one.....My friends family from back home - cattle farming for 30 years - gone!!

There has been a lot of money pumped to them.....but not enough - and beef is a VITAL industry in Canada - they waited too loong....IMO


yup... another liberal boondoggle.. im sure they could have used some of that wasted $100 million....

its a shame we cant get any real change. People buy the lies they want to hear because they dont want to deal with the truth. The truth is our social systems are kaput and need reform and our taxes are way too high which is why a lot of professionals are leaving canada.

voting is like dating. You choose the one who tells the best tale even if it is a sack of bull because it strokes your ego for the time being. you claim you want the truth but in reality you dont.

ShadoWolf
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Originally posted by naesean3
we need more money funneled into Ontario - basically is what I am saying.......one our Provincial STRONGHOLDS is ailing - if our Mother wont help her baby so to speak.....


then why do you support the Lieberals? Remember, the Lieberal Party is not a federalist party, it's a centralist party. They want the federal government to run everything, directly or indirectly (through the spending power). The NDP is also a centralist party.

We need a government that will respect the constitution and it's federalist aspects to stop the fiscal imbalance.
naesean3
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Originally posted by Jayx1
yup... another liberal boondoggle.. im sure they could have used some of that wasted $100 million....

its a shame we cant get any real change. People buy the lies they want to hear because they dont want to deal with the truth. The truth is our social systems are kaput and need reform and our taxes are way too high which is why a lot of professionals are leaving canada.

voting is like dating. You choose the one who tells the best tale even if it is a sack of bull because it strokes your ego for the time being. you claim you want the truth but in reality you dont.


for sure "yes honey - you ARE the best I ever had......."

this propping up of EGO has really laid waste to this social structures that make this Country a wonderful place to be.......I really hope that things improve quickly on the political landscape election of no election.....the matter at hand is running the Country and I dont know if any of them (3 parties) can do it with any degree of success. I was always a staunch Chretien supporter and I know what he did to Martin was unfair - but Martin should never have been Prime Minister - stick to balancing Budgets - he was always more of a numbers man IMO -
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