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| VERTiG0 |
| No need to generalize, you can get technical. |
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| techead |
if you mean how many cc's is the motor
then a 383 cu in is 6276 cc
1 cubic inch = 16.3870641 cubic centimeter |
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| Scot @ SJIRadio |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mark
it won't damage your engine. you might be putting a little more wear on it though which is normal. everytime you drive your car you put wear on the motor. no big deal.
rev-matching while downshifting (heel-toe or double clutching) can save your synchros though. |
You don't need to heel and toe, or 'double clutch' in order to rev match... especially if you are using the engine as an alternative to breaking. |
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| zoogla |
| quote: | Originally posted by VERTiG0
Too bad it's FWD and HEAVY AS HELL ;) |
Its power:weight ratio is the highest in its price bracket...so relatively speaking, sir, and with all due respect, it's NOT HEAVY AS HELL...:tongue3
2001 Acura Integra Type R (lbs/HP) = 13.53 <--this is a BEAST; much respect
1997 Prelude = 15.12 (however this has the better torque:weight ratio)
2000 Civic SiR = 16.25
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...que#post4226044
P.S. I totally got my stats wrong in my previous post; don't know what I was thinking!!! VTEC is 5500 - 7400 rpm (redline kicks in at 7400 and I dare not take my baby into that territory :nervous: ) |
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| Mark |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scot @ SJIRadio
You don't need to heel and toe, or 'double clutch' in order to rev match... especially if you are using the engine as an alternative to breaking. |
i was just simply stating the fact that you can save wear on your synchros by rev-matching. how you do it is a whole other topic but i am only familiar with heel-toe and double clutching.
| quote: | Originally posted by fayraree
Its power:weight ratio is the highest in its price bracket...so relatively speaking, sir, and with all due respect, it's NOT HEAVY AS HELL...:tongue3
2001 Acura Integra Type R (lbs/HP) = 13.53 <--this is a BEAST; much respect
1997 Prelude = 15.12 (however this has the better torque:weight ratio)
2000 Civic SiR = 16.25
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...que#post4226044
P.S. I totally got my stats wrong in my previous post; don't know what I was thinking!!! VTEC is 5500 - 7400 rpm (redline kicks in at 7400 and I dare not take my baby into that territory :nervous: ) |
i'd love to line up my GS-R against a prelude at the drag strip some day. ;)
you can pull stats from sites and brochures but it only counts when you put the cars to the test. remember, what matters most is not crank peak hp/tq @ certain rpms but wheel hp/tq and how much area you have under the curves in your dyno graphs. |
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| King_Mack |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scot @ SJIRadio
You don't need to heel and toe, or 'double clutch' in order to rev match... especially if you are using the engine as an alternative to breaking. |
I just balance my clutch pedal with the brake pedal(with two legs). I hear if you drop your clutch pedal too fast when braking, you can burn your clutch because the clutch is playing catchup to the actual engine RPM
aside, has anyone powershifted??? I dont have the balls to try it yet |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mark
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you can pull stats from sites and brochures but it only counts when you put the cars to the test. remember, what matters most is not crank peak hp/tq @ certain rpms but wheel hp/tq and how much area you have under the curves in your dyno graphs. |
werd.
crank #s mean too little on their own to be used to compare cars...especially when some manufacturers seem to intentionally skew the #s for various reasons.
stock Preludes are decent cars...but, relatively speaking, you won't find too many serious tuners driving them...however you *will* find plenty of clowns who think their 3" exhaust, lowering springs, and 18" wheels are the , lol. |
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| zoogla |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mark
i'd love to line up my GS-R against a prelude at the drag strip some day. ;)
you can pull stats from sites and brochures but it only counts when you put the cars to the test. remember, what matters most is not crank peak hp/tq @ certain rpms but wheel hp/tq and how much area you have under the curves in your dyno graphs. |
Agree 100% just trying to debate my man Cale who keeps dissing my ass!!! LOL
Is your GSR stock? 170 HP vs. 195 and significantly lower torque are quite different numbers so I'd expect (given stock cars with the same drivers--this is where I lack; I'm not a drag stripper AT ALL) the Prelude to prevail...
Mind you your GSR looks pretty tricked out so I'm not showing you my pink slip anytime soon! :nervous: LOL! |
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| Mark |
actually stock GSR's and stock preludes run about the same time on the drag strip.
again, its not about power at the crank. after drivetrain losses in the real world, you will realize that peak hp at 'x' rpm means absolutely nothing.
its about wheel hp/tq and torque playing a much bigger role in drag racing. plus its also about weight and gearing, shorter = better to an extent.
i dragged my GSR last year and ran 15.2 @ 91mph. it was only my second time being at the strip (i have had about 7 runs total in my life). this is on a stock GSR with bad street tires and thats better than what the normal 1/4 mile times are on the preludes. |
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| Scot @ SJIRadio |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mark
i was just simply stating the fact that you can save wear on your synchros by rev-matching. how you do it is a whole other topic but i am only familiar with heel-toe and double clutching.
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I was just stating that heel and toe defeats the purpose of engine braking (shifting into a lower gear to slow the car).
Proper heel and toe shifting is when the heel is on the toe is on the brake, clutch is pressed with the left foot, and the heel of your right foot is used to bring the revs up to match the RPM of the current gear you are down shifting to. If you are engine braking, you don't need to be using your toe to brake, hense the reason heel and toe shifting would defeat the purpose.
As for power shifting, yes, done it many times, but its a good way to ruin your tranny. |
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| Scot @ SJIRadio |
| Also, for those who do drag race, I'll be giving away some free passes to the CSCS season opener at TMP June 18th. Stay tuned for details :toocool: |
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| zoogla |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mark
actually stock GSR's and stock preludes run about the same time on the drag strip.
again, its not about power at the crank. after drivetrain losses in the real world, you will realize that peak hp at 'x' rpm means absolutely nothing.
its about wheel hp/tq and torque playing a much bigger role in drag racing. plus its also about weight and gearing, shorter = better to an extent.
i dragged my GSR last year and ran 15.2 @ 91mph. it was only my second time being at the strip (i have had about 7 runs total in my life). this is on a stock GSR with bad street tires and thats better than what the normal 1/4 mile times are on the preludes. |
Personally, I hate dragging but I would never have the balls to race my own car on a circuit. That's where the GSR would probably further kick the Lude's ass because of the crazy understeer I have...I don't have an SH so no ATTS...would love to try that system out though...
But I guess there's no quicker sense of dominance than a handy straight-line beating... |
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