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Serious Problems are Afoot in New Orleans (pg. 11)
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| metalgearsolid |
| I have a crazy solution to how to get the people of New Orleans. You bring the Air Force and bomb the areas where the people carry guns and where the police has been fired at. Than after you bomb those locations you bring in the Mobile infantry and keep them there to keep control. |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by metalgearsolid
I have a crazy solution to how to get the people of New Orleans. You bring the Air Force and bomb the areas where the people carry guns and where the police has been fired at. Than after you bomb those locations you bring in the Mobile infantry and keep them there to keep control. |
Sounds like something you could do in Iraq, so why not? =)
More destruction to the people! |
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| metalgearsolid |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
Sounds like something you could do in Iraq, so why not? =)
More destruction to the people! |
The city is ruined anyways, so why not? The faster you do action the lesss time you are going to have to worry about having some black man come up to you with a gun. Bring Martial Law it is necessary for a situation like this since the people are not acting in a civilised maner. |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by metalgearsolid
The city is ruined anyways, so why not? The faster you do action the lesss time you are going to have to worry about having some black man come up to you with a gun. Bring Martial Law it is necessary for a situation like this since the people are not acting in a civilised maner. |
So you are actually serious?
1. I don't think there is one area where all the criminals are, they are all over the place.
2. Even if there was one place, there probably would be lots of innocent people there anyway so you would end up killing more inocent ppl than you would just letting it be.
3. If you want to bomb everything anyway then you could as well let them plunder the place imo.
Etc. |
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| biznology |
wow i was figuring the response here would be better than the CORe...
not by much i suppose.
bickering is awesome!
oh wait, no, only the shpongle im listening to is...
i dont contribute much here on purpose, then again i imagine a link to read a physical book is oft ignored. i make no doubts that it would be an eyeopener, but i suppose that's not what the net is made of|
(jus bom the fukers!! why not?!?) |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by biznology
wow i was figuring the response here would be better than the CORe...
not by much i suppose.
bickering is awesome!
oh wait, no, only the shpongle im listening to is...
i dont contribute much here on purpose, then again i imagine a link to read a physical book is oft ignored. i make no doubts that it would be an eyeopener, but i suppose that's not what the net is made of|
(jus bom the fukers!! why not?!?) |
Don't judge all of us because metalgearsolid for some reason is hanging out here sometimes :p |
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| DaveSZ |
Welcome to Amerikkka.
America died years ago.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050902/ts_nm/weather_katrina_reaction_dc
World stunned as US struggles with Katrina
By Andrew Gray 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
LONDON (Reuters) - The world has watched amazed as the planet's only superpower struggles with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, with some saying the chaos has exposed flaws and deep divisions in American society.
World leaders and ordinary citizens have expressed sympathy with the people of the southern United States whose lives were devastated by the hurricane and the flooding that followed.
But many have also been shocked by the images of disorder beamed around the world -- looters roaming the debris-strewn streets and thousands of people gathered in New Orleans waiting for the authorities to provide food, water and other aid.
"Anarchy in the USA" declared Britain's best-selling newspaper The Sun.
"Apocalypse Now" headlined Germany's Handelsblatt daily.
The pictures of the catastrophe -- which has killed hundreds and possibly thousands -- have evoked memories of crises in the world's poorest nations such as last year's tsunami in Asia, which left more than 230,000 people dead or missing.
But some view the response to those disasters more favorably than the lawless aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
"I am absolutely disgusted. After the tsunami our people, even the ones who lost everything, wanted to help the others who were suffering," said Sajeewa Chinthaka, 36, as he watched a cricket match in Colombo, Sri Lanka.
"Not a single tourist caught in the tsunami was mugged. Now with all this happening in the U.S. we can easily see where the civilized part of the world's population is."
SINKING INTO ANARCHY
Many newspapers highlighted criticism of local and state authorities and of
President Bush. Some compared the sputtering relief effort with the massive amounts of money and resources poured into the war in
Iraq.
"A modern metropolis sinking in water and into anarchy -- it is a really cruel spectacle for a champion of security like Bush," France's left-leaning Liberation newspaper said.
"(Al Qaeda leader Osama) bin Laden, nice and dry in his hideaway, must be killing himself laughing."
A female employee at a multinational firm in
South Korea said it may have been no accident the U.S. was hit.
"Maybe it was punishment for what it did to Iraq, which has a man-made disaster, not a natural disaster," said the woman, who did not want to be named as she has an American manager.
"A lot of the people I work with think this way. We spoke about it just the other day," she said.
Commentators noted the victims of the hurricane were overwhelmingly African Americans, too poor to flee the region as the hurricane loomed unlike some of their white neighbors.
New Orleans ranks fifth in the United States in terms of African American population and 67 percent of the city's residents are black.
"In one of the poorest states in the country, where black people earn half as much as white people, this has taken on a racial dimension," said a report in Britain's Guardian daily.
Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn, in a veiled criticism of U.S. political thought, said the disaster showed the need for a strong state that could help poor people.
"You see in this example that even in the 21st century you need the state, a good functioning state, and I hope that for all these people, these poor people, that the Americans will do their best," he told reporters at a
European Union meeting in Newport, Wales.
David Fordham, 33, a hospital anesthetist speaking at a London underground rail station, said he had spent time in America and was not surprised the country had struggled to cope.
"Maybe they just thought they could sit it out and everything would be okay," he said.
"It's unbelievable though -- the TV images -- and your heart goes out to them."
(With reporting by Reuters bureaux around the world) |
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| Yoepus |
regarding racism.
I think it is coming from the left.
The left/liberals are scared to enter the areas because "they shot a helicopter".
The hollywood is not speaking out, where is the "tsunami aid drive"? Where is the fund-raising concerts? Where are those actors and celebs talking on TV about this tradegy and how we must all do more? The left complains, racist, racist, they see blacks.
The right/conservatives are working. The right is in the military. The right is donating, the right (Texas, Flordia, etc) are opening their cities, their homes, their schools, their universities. The right is defending their property, and not scared of a few drugies with guns. The right sees humanity not skin color. |
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| metalgearsolid |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
Don't judge all of us because metalgearsolid for some reason is hanging out here sometimes :p |
now now most of the time I do just find not using my head. But if you really want me to use my head I will post this.
What is happening in New Orleans is understandable. There are many african americans who stayed behind because they were too poor to move out. And after being through several hurricanes you kind of have the opinion that this one will be no different from the last one. So take that into consideration you can see why people stayed behind. Now that this hurricane actually destroyed a bunch of things and knocked out electricity, and obviously the government itself was thinking that this was not going to end up this way. After being drilled by the media as to how the "good" american will behave; they believed that people would obey the law and act like civilised people. But you see %80 of the pop is black and if you watch tv than you know how they are going to act. Like a bunch of scary negroes that the rest of the nation fears:rolleyes: . What is happening in New Orleans is the fault of the way they were socialized by the media. And well frankly none of them enjoyed the luxary of you live St.Andrew.
Now if you really want a crazy thought just why not nuke them all? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
regarding racism.
I think it is coming from the left.
The left/liberals are scared to enter the areas because "they shot a helicopter".
The hollywood is not speaking out, where is the "tsunami aid drive"? Where is the fund-raising concerts? Where are those actors and celebs talking on TV about this tradegy and how we must all do more? The left complains, racist, racist, they see blacks. |
Oh, you mean benefit concerts like this?:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...eadlines-nation
http://www.courant.com/features/lif...y-features-life
http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2005/Se...71f1703fe1.html
http://www.canada.com/national/nati...87-193bd6b47328
(interesting how Celine Dion donates as much as ING WALMART CORPORATE CONGLOMERATE, ain't it?)
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?...9&PAG=461&rfi=9
http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/p...389/1023/FEAT05
And BTW, just because Hollywood folks tend to vote Democrat doesn't mean the Dems. embrace Hollywood, BTW. So please cease with this "guilt-by association" stuff of the Left and Hollywood stuff. Let's keep in mind who exactly owns those companies and corporations that put out Hollywood on the airwaves, and who's pockets those corporations consistently line.
And tell me something, you honestly think you'd see such a slow response if the victims were a bunch of white surbanite Desperate Housewife-looking individuals? Or do you think they might have just dropped their vacations and jumped a tad bit quicker?
| quote: | | The right/conservatives are working. The right is in the military. The right is donating, the right (Texas, Flordia, etc) are opening their cities, their homes, their schools, their universities. The right is defending their property, and not scared of a few drugies with guns. The right sees humanity not skin color. |
Yeah, about that Right, here's a few interesting things about YOUR leadership during this crisis:
1. Bush: "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees."
Nah, who would think of such a thing?:
http://magma.nationalgeographic.com...ure5/index.html
http://www.hurricane.lsu.edu/_in_the_news/houston.htm
http://www.nola.com/hurricane/?/washingaway/
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/a...8neworleans.htm
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/...storyId=1150366
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/...storyId=1150367
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/...storyId=4827395
2. This one's my favorite - our dear Secretary of State Condi Rice was found shopping for shoes that cost several thousand dollars, played tennis with Monica Seles, and went to a Broadway musical yesterday:
http://www.gawker.com/news/condolee...on-shoes-123467
I mean, ain't that sweet? Jeez, even Drudge had that one up.
But to her credit (what little is left), she pulled her head out of her arse, realized how much criticism she was getting (rightfully so), cut her vacation short, and is now back in Washington:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/02/politics/02bush.html
3. Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert essentially says screw rebuilding New Orleans - it would be pointless:
http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breaki..._09.html#075833
Nice guy.
4. Good ol' Rummy reassured everyone during this disaster that the propaganda September 11 commemoration will still proceed as planned with Clint Black leading the way!:
http://americablog.blogspot.com/200...-in-nola-3.html
5. RNC Chairman Ken "I refused to comment on my sexuality" Mehlman sent out an email yesterday, again amidst this incredible disaster telling his minions that NOW is the time to focus on the repeal the estate tax:
http://americablog.blogspot.com/200...to-promote.html
6. Finally, our dear steadfast VP is still on vacation:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...83101127_5.html
I mean, these guys luuuv their vacations, don't they? All over this one, aren't they?
I'm more than happy to give credit where it's due. The Texas Gov., for example, is a shiny bright spot, and I'm proud of him stepping up to the plate. Aside of that, your leadership should be embarrassed. |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by metalgearsolid
now now most of the time I do just find not using my head. But if you really want me to use my head I will post this.
What is happening in New Orleans is understandable. There are many african americans who stayed behind because they were too poor to move out. And after being through several hurricanes you kind of have the opinion that this one will be no different from the last one. So take that into consideration you can see why people stayed behind. Now that this hurricane actually destroyed a bunch of things and knocked out electricity, and obviously the government itself was thinking that this was not going to end up this way. After being drilled by the media as to how the "good" american will behave; they believed that people would obey the law and act like civilised people. But you see %80 of the pop is black and if you watch tv than you know how they are going to act. Like a bunch of scary negroes that the rest of the nation fears:rolleyes: . What is happening in New Orleans is the fault of the way they were socialized by the media. And well frankly none of them enjoyed the luxary of you live St.Andrew.
Now if you really want a crazy thought just why not nuke them all? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
That doesn't have to do with upbringing. When people loose all they have and don't have food to eat of course they'll start robbing stores and killing each other. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
regarding racism.
I think it is coming from the left.
The left/liberals are scared to enter the areas because "they shot a helicopter".
The hollywood is not speaking out, where is the "tsunami aid drive"? Where is the fund-raising concerts? Where are those actors and celebs talking on TV about this tradegy and how we must all do more? The left complains, racist, racist, they see blacks.
The right/conservatives are working. The right is in the military. The right is donating, the right (Texas, Flordia, etc) are opening their cities, their homes, their schools, their universities. The right is defending their property, and not scared of a few drugies with guns. The right sees humanity not skin color. |
Pah! You talk some crap Yoepus!
So the army = the right does it? WTF?
It is the JOB of the establishment (which you strangely refer to as the "right") to sort this mess out, not the "left" (a term which you use for the aid agencies, and anyone else you do not agree with)
The "right" (to continue using your silly terms) has ed up MAJORLY
I even said in my very first post that there will be loads of looting, and if I, a lad from England who has never been to America can make that prediction then surely the US government should have been able to? How long did we know about this for? We had what? A weeks notice? 4 days? Why did the "right" not have every available national guard unit from the entire south of America waiting at the borders ready to move in when the storm had passed? Why were there not huge containers of food, water, blankets etc ready to be airlifted in? Really, does it take too much to think about these pretty obvious things?
People in this thread and else where have truely pissed me off. This is probably the worst disater to have effected the American people, probably more so than 9/11. But all anyone is bothered about is using it to score cheep shots at the people they disagree with. It started with people complaining that the world should be helping, using this tradegy as a means of somehow showing that their views are right, that why should America lift a finger to "help" people when all they get is criticism and when nobody comes to help America. They are using this as to say "see, America is right" Its sick. And its just as sick as the left using this to score points over Iraq.
If the US government has to rely on aid and foreign assistance then there is something severely wrong. I have never said there should be no foreign help, just that it should not be needed and I dont think any would disagree with that (nb. for all you illiterates: "should not be needed" does not mean "is not needed")
Yet still people will use this tragedy to score points, as Yoepus is. If it is too dangerous for the aid to get through then it is simply too dangerous. Who's faults that? Your "left" or your "right"? It is the "right's" job to ensure security so the "left" may go ahead and do the job that the "right" should be doing anyway... |
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