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Serious Problems are Afoot in New Orleans (pg. 3)
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
Surely you don't need any money! |
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| Dupz |
Before and after pics of New Orleans..
Some more pics...
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| NeoPhono |
The latest dollar figure that I've heard (from the BBC) is that this disaster will cost in the neighborhood of 25 billion dollars. So, I think that the US probably could use a few bucks from other countries. Sure, the US is "rich" but its people aren't and they're the ones that could use the donated money, along with donated man-power to help save those poor bastards.
This is going to sound jaded, but to me, here's the bottom line: When there is a disaster anywhere in the world, the US is expected to give money and other resouces to aid clean up and recovery efforts. When there's a diaster in the US, they're on their own.
I have yet to read or hear anything anywhere that shows other countries volunteering even token amounts to the rescue and recovery efforts in New Orleans/the South. I hope someone can prove me wrong. |
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| George Smiley |
You give aid to countries that need it! America owns a 5th of the entire world's wealth!
Its like the EU - some countries are net contributors cos they are richer, whereas the other countries are net benefactuaries cos they are poor
America does not need any aid |
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| kush paintings |
| I was actually reading an article in the newspaper today about money that made a great point. People are always willing to tell the wealthy how to spend their money but are never willing to return the favor. $25 Billion! Yes, the U.S. needs some aid. I will be shocked if there is any sizeable world rescue effort at all. It could be just a number of workers, or soldiers to help out. Equipment, etc. But, I won't hold my breathe, wouldn't want anybody to return any favors. |
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| occrider |
| Well considering rescue crews in the gulf states can only spray paint red X's on the doors of homes where dead people are inside and don't have time to fish out the dead bodies floating in the streets I would say that if not monetary aid, aid in materiale would be quite welcome. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by kush paintings
I was actually reading an article in the newspaper today about money that made a great point. People are always willing to tell the wealthy how to spend their money but are never willing to return the favor. $25 Billion! Yes, the U.S. needs some aid. I will be shocked if there is any sizeable world rescue effort at all. It could be just a number of workers, or soldiers to help out. Equipment, etc. But, I won't hold my breathe, wouldn't want anybody to return any favors. |
For s sake how many ing times?!!?! |
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| metalgearsolid |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
I have yet to read or hear anything anywhere that shows other countries volunteering even token amounts to the rescue and recovery efforts in New Orleans/the South. I hope someone can prove me wrong. |
I believe I posted something earlier as to how Venezuela offered to help. That BEING Venezuela.
| quote: | | For s sake how many ing times?!!?! |
| quote: | You give aid to countries that need it! America owns a 5th of the entire world's wealth!
Its like the EU - some countries are net contributors cos they are richer, whereas the other countries are net benefactuaries cos they are poor
America does not need any aid |
hu huh and would this be some anti-american remarks as to how the US owns the world. Why don't you just say that. It sounds better instead of ing around. I don't believe you have bothered to notice, but the US is in serious trouble. We have a 7Trillion dollar debt. Thats more than Germ, UK, Italy GDP. So if a nuke went off in london you would want no help? This is a natural disaster and it would be nice to see NATIONS who depend on our consumption to help out. Such nations being china, mexico, canada, Japan. |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
You give aid to countries that need it! America owns a 5th of the entire world's wealth! |
Yet it need the aid after Sept 11th?
How come the world offers aid to the USA after a building or two collapsed in NYC by political forces, yet when a whole city is wiped off the face of this earth by natrual forces, nothing?!
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Its like the EU - some countries are net contributors cos they are richer, whereas the other countries are net benefactuaries cos they are poor |
Then how come Germany (an EU net contributor) needed aid from all over the EU after their recent floods?!
The Germans are rich enough to deal with their own problems right, why give EU monies for their floods?
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America does not need any aid |
Do unto others as you would have done unto you. |
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| St_Andrew |
Yes i agree other countries should help the US with material aid. I'm pretty sure the rest of the western world would if they asked for it tho (like they did on sept 11th). But money aid just doesnt make sense. US is one of the richest countries in the world, they can afford it. I mean really, not even India wanted to accept any foreign aid after the tsunami since they thought they could afford it themselves. If India can, then America can too. So that aid money would be better to give to some poor country to help them develop.
And yes very tragic event, hopefully the fatalties can be kept pretty low thanks to the evacuation and such. But i guess it will still be pretty high :( |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
Yet it need the aid after Sept 11th?
How come the world offers aid to the USA after a building or two collapsed in NYC by political forces, yet when a whole city is wiped off the face of this earth by natrual forces, nothing?! |
They asked for help then but not now?
| quote: | Then how come Germany (an EU net contributor) needed aid from all over the EU after their recent floods?!
The Germans are rich enough to deal with their own problems right, why give EU monies for their floods? |
That argument really doesnt make any sense at all. Germany is contributor to the EU catastrophy funds, which are intended for floodings like that. Of course they should get money for that. It's like if the US decided that only certain "poor" states should get federal money for things like this. :conf: |
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| Yoepus |
Its really ridicilous how little aid is going into Lousiana and the surronding areas.
Despite being declared a national emergency, these states are going through rescue and salavage operations on all only their state forces.
The national guard is there, not the army.
Its obvious what has to be done:
Ships need to converge on New Orleans and Biloxi. Repair, construction, drainage, bridge building, barges, carriers, transports, cruises ship, they all need to be send to those areas.
Right now I am in Galveston Texas - they are building a new interstate bridge to connect the island with the mainland. No one will care if the project goes 2,3, even 6 months over schedule - there are other bridges servicing the island. Those crews need to be moved out (forced out and compensated) to go work on the levies, bridges in the like in effected areas.
The cruises ships, Carnival, Royal etc, have moved their ships based in New Orleans to Galveston and they are operating 2-3 day cruises out of here (two days ago they were selling these cruises for $99 a person .... that's cheaper than staying in a 6 motel).
These ships need to be confiscated and compensated by the government as floating hotels in the effect areas to faciliate living accomadation to the soldiers, rescue, utility, and construction crews. They could probably make a lot more money doing that then crusing out as well..
If there was quicker response by all these private forces and a national emergency plan and discipline to activate military and support vessles quicker we could have avoided the disasterous pictures that will unfold over the next couple days:
New Orleans, the 35th largest city in the US, is gone.
I don't know if this is the USA's pompeii or if they will rebuild... but the city is gone. |
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