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Serious Problems are Afoot in New Orleans (pg. 14)
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St_Andrew
quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Here's a good article from Aunty...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4210674.stm

...with a message for all you who think rich people shouldn't have to pay as much tax...


Very good article... Sums it up pretty good. But tbh I think america will have forgotten this within a year and go on as they have always done...
kush paintings
Now we are going to attack the wealthy in this country?! Listen, our tax system, even with the tax cuts to the wealthy, generates plenty of money. The reason why the levees were inadequately funded is because of our big government spending billions on "defense" and rebuilding not our own cities, but other countries.
metalgearsolid
I think to put that shorter is that the gov spends money on less important things.
ogvh5150
quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
this guy too


Your eloquence breaks my heart.

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Pure conjecture...


No.

Why rapid response last year?

Late Friday, about 1,400 National Guard troops were sent to hard-hit Port Charlotte, where there are numerous reports of injuries and search-and-rescue efforts are under way, according to the Federal Department of Emergency Management.
Mighty Charley loses steam


ST. AUGUSTINE, Fla. (8/16/2004) — More than 4,000 members of the Florida National Guard were on duty today to support recovery operations from Hurricane Charley's devastation Aug. 13 across southwest and central Florida.
Guardsmen Support Hurricane Charley Recovery Operations


PUNTA GORDA - Sgt. 1st Class John Garrison's Florida National Guard unit was shot at every day in Iraq. The troops endured dry desert heat for 15 months. The unit's 400 members were responsible for patrolling an area crammed with 700,000 Iraqis.
Now, three months after its return from Iraq, Garrison's unit has been summoned to help the victims of Hurricane Charley. They can see that the damage is bad, that Charlotte County residents are suffering.
For Guard, Charley is better than Iraq


President Bush declared Florida, Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi disaster areas, making federal funding and aid available. The declaration for Florida was the third in a month, following those issued for hurricanes Charley and Frances.
More than 2,000 National Guard troops were moving into northwest Florida to assist with assessment and cleanup operations, Gov. Bush said.
Ivan made landfall on the east side of Mobile Bay in Alabama at 1:50 a.m. (2:50 a.m. ET) Thursday as a slightly weakened Category 3 hurricane with winds of 130 mph (208 kph).
Ivan's stormy trek floods Southeast


But they're in Iraq:

The National Guard has always been America's first line of defense and support after natural disasters, but with 100,000 Guardsmen deployed overseas supporting missions from Afghanistan and Iraq to the Balkans, its disaster-relief force is smaller.
Storm Surge (A National Guard Association of the United States article)


2005:

Florida Lt. Gov. Toni Jennings said Florida had prepared well for the emergency, with 2,600 National Guard troops ready to be dispatched to affected areas.
Dennis spreads across Southeast


Dennis was the only other US mainland hurricane to hit before Katrina.
ogvh5150
quote:
Originally posted by ogvh5150
In peacetime the Guard respond days before things like hurricanes hit land. But since we have to find those hard to find WMD's the Guard is in Iraq.

I don't know if any of you remember when Guardmen bagged sand, handed out water, manned water purifiers, etc. after devastating storms hit. I do.


Dear Q5Echo:

I see that you are wanting information. I hope this helps.

Sincerely yours,
5150

During wartime, Guard units can be mobilized to fight overseas. Back home, they typically fall under the control of their state governors and are available for emergencies. But with the active-duty military stretched in Afghanistan and Iraq, the Guard and Reserves have been called on to play a major role. About 40% of all U.S. troops in Iraq are Guard and Reserves.
Louisiana is also suffering the recruiting problems afflicting the Guard nationwide. Nationally, the Army Guard is making only about 80% of its recruiting goals this year. Louisiana has had a more difficult time than most states, making only 53% of its goal through July. That shortfall translates into a deficit of about 800 Army Guard recruits.
Col. Jerry Vaughn, joint forces chief of staff for the Florida National Guard, said his state had about 6,000 soldiers called up after Hurricane Andrew in 1992. But even that contingent, roughly equal to all the Guard troops remaining in Louisiana, wasn't sufficient. The Pentagon also sent troops from two divisions to Florida.
Pentagon to send 10,000 National Guard troops
ogvh5150
Hey Fir3start3r LOOKIE:

NEW ORLEANS, United States (AFP) - A top New Orleans police officer said that National Guard troops sat around playing cards while people died in the stricken city after Hurricane Katrina.
New Orleans deputy police commander W.S. Riley launched a bitter attack on the federal response to the disaster though he praised the way the evacuation was eventually handled.
His remarks fuelled controversy over the government's handling of events during five days when New Orleans succumbed to lawlessness after Katrina swamped the city's flood defenses.
The National Guard commander, Lieutenant General Steven Blum, said the reservist force was slow to move troops into New Orleans because it did not anticipate the collapse of the city's police force.
Guardsmen 'played cards' amid New Orleans chaos: police official


And the LA gov said they were battle hardened. Go figure.
donnybrasco
quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Here's a good article from Aunty...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4210674.stm

...with a message for all you who think rich people shouldn't have to pay as much tax...


Oh brother...:conf:

"Good Article"? From some snot-nosed Brit who thinks he knows this country after 3 trips to New Orleans?

I'd expect a lot better reporting than this from the BBC.

And how you make the connection that more taxes are needed from those "rich" people is beyond me...............I just hope that one day I make enough money to keep people with your mentality out of my gated-community. :tongue2
Q5echo
quote:
Originally posted by ogvh5150
Dear Q5Echo:

I see that you are wanting information. I hope this helps.

Sincerely yours,
5150

During wartime, Guard units can be mobilized to fight overseas. Back home, they typically fall under the control of their state governors and are available for emergencies. But with the active-duty military stretched in Afghanistan and Iraq, the Guard and Reserves have been called on to play a major role. About 40% of all U.S. troops in Iraq are Guard and Reserves.
Louisiana is also suffering the recruiting problems afflicting the Guard nationwide. Nationally, the Army Guard is making only about 80% of its recruiting goals this year. Louisiana has had a more difficult time than most states, making only 53% of its goal through July. That shortfall translates into a deficit of about 800 Army Guard recruits.
Col. Jerry Vaughn, joint forces chief of staff for the Florida National Guard, said his state had about 6,000 soldiers called up after Hurricane Andrew in 1992. But even that contingent, roughly equal to all the Guard troops remaining in Louisiana, wasn't sufficient. The Pentagon also sent troops from two divisions to Florida.
Pentagon to send 10,000 National Guard troops

explain your point.

BTW i was listening to DM when you were sucking your thumb watching saturday morning cartoons.
George Smiley
quote:
Originally posted by donnybrasco
Oh brother...:conf:

"Good Article"? From some snot-nosed Brit who thinks he knows this country after 3 trips to New Orleans?

I'd expect a lot better reporting than this from the BBC.

And how you make the connection that more taxes are needed from those "rich" people is beyond me...............I just hope that one day I make enough money to keep people with your mentality out of my gated-community. :tongue2

Where did I say the rich should pay more taxes? If you can't understand English then I fail to see how you can comment on whether an article is good or not...
ogvh5150
quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
explain your point.

BTW i was listening to DM when you were sucking your thumb watching saturday morning cartoons.


You called me tired after one of my posts as if to bait me. I didn't want to go off topic but I had to end it with that article.

As far as DM is concerned, I have been listening to them since their Black Celebration album. Van Halen since their 1984 album. U2 since their Unforgettable Fire album. The Cure since their Fascination Street album. This of course does not mean when exactly I first heard these artists.

I first saw DM in 2001 and was glad to see a wide range of ages at the concert. I heard them play at Madison Square Garden and hope to see them again but not at MSG. The acoustics are bad there.

Back on topic.

DrUg_Tit0
Seems everybody here likes DM :)
George Smiley
quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Seems everybody here likes DM :)

Who's DM?!
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