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Suddenly I realized the stupidity of long buildups (pg. 11)
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Azz3D
ishkur have you thought about becoming a journalist or maybe write a book or something?
your writing style has everything... the flow... the structure... vocabulary... professionalism...
just a thought:p |
He is a journalist. He gets paid to talk about hockey as if it's a real sport. |
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| Ishkur |
J, did Christian put you up to this, or are you being this deliberately obtuse all by yourself?
House isn't trying to be something its not. Case closed.
*smack* |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ishkur
J, did Christian put you up to this, or are you being this deliberately obtuse all by yourself?
House isn't trying to be something its not. Case closed.
*smack* |
I'm in an aggressive mood, and you're the only person on Planet Web who's up for an argument.
And come on. Trying? Trying what? Trance is what it is. You make a super-anthemic mega trance track and it's exactly that. It isn't trying anything. It's not as if Out of the Blue or Suburban Train failed at what they tried to be.
Genres move on. Trance would have died in 1996 had someone not done something with the genre. A creative drought. Just like it's been in for the last couple of years. Nobody with any sense says "oh yeah, trance kicks ass in 2005!", but that doesn't mean that trance that wasn't your buzzing, boring concoction was never any good. |
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| A.J. |
| Man, some of you take this stuff way too seriously :wtf: |
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| montana |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ishkur
William Orbit - Water From a Vine Leaf
X-Press 2 - Supasong
Trisco - Muzak
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2 things, that's the Xylem Flow mix (by spooky) on water from....
and supasong & muzak, aren't you slating those ones in your guide`? |
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| Massive84 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Phil raa
the best build-ups are ones where you don't realise it's a build-up, until it's almost built up.
then u realise you should be screaming ur face off. :) |
Brisky & Dave - prototype 1.
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| Ishkur |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
And come on. Trying? Trying what? Trance is what it is. You make a super-anthemic mega trance track and it's exactly that. It isn't trying anything. It's not as if Out of the Blue or Suburban Train failed at what they tried to be.
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I've explained, many times, exactly why they are, in essays and rants in this very forum. I'd show you, but the search function is down.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Genres move on. Trance would have died in 1996 had someone not done something with the genre. A creative drought. Just like it's been in for the last couple of years. Nobody with any sense says "oh yeah, trance kicks ass in 2005!", but that doesn't mean that trance that wasn't your buzzing, boring concoction was never any good.
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Genres can evolve and move on without insulting our intelligence.
Trance is a unicycle. Since 98 its been wearing training wheels and a safety harness so all the uncoordinated people who are attracted to pretty, shiny things can ride it. |
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| kr00t0n |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ishkur
I've explained, many times, exactly why they are, in essays and rants in this very forum. I'd show you, but the search function is down.
Genres can evolve and move on without insulting our intelligence.
Trance is a unicycle. Since 98 its been wearing training wheels and a safety harness so all the uncoordinated people who are attracted to pretty, shiny things can ride it. |
Heaven forbid something be popular.
I wager you'd hate the trance you love, if it was the popular music now. |
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| JakeC |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ishkur
I've explained, many times, exactly why they are, in essays and rants in this very forum. I'd show you, but the search function is down.
Genres can evolve and move on without insulting our intelligence.
Trance is a unicycle. Since 98 its been wearing training wheels and a safety harness so all the uncoordinated people who are attracted to pretty, shiny things can ride it. |
And what was it doing from the beggining to 98? |
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| Aiwendil |
| quote: | Originally posted by isoterra
lol, it's amusing how barrel-scrapingly unfunny & strung together aiwendil's posts start to look once ishkur joins the discussion |
lol whereas yours look that way all the time regardless of who joins a discussion lol
You expect me to be able or try to compete with a professional writer? And I believe "Muzak" is in the "Brit House" section of the guide, where he says it's the most boring music in the world. If I remember correctly. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ishkur
I've explained, many times, exactly why they are, in essays and rants in this very forum. I'd show you, but the search function is down. |
I've read your shlock time and again, and it didn't cut any mustard then either.
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Genres can evolve and move on without insulting our intelligence.
Trance is a unicycle. Since 98 its been wearing training wheels and a safety harness so all the uncoordinated people who are attracted to pretty, shiny things can ride it. |
Yes. Because fun music can never be good, right? Because the Prodge's "Out of Space" was a demanding intellectual trip. That's why it's one of the most perenially popular dance records ever made, right? And then there's the pretty glaring assumption that the breakdown (which just happens to be an established dance music tool since the beginning of time) means that a track suddenly has no intelligence, development, subtlety or whatever you want.
Who honestly gives a if it's got the word "trance" in the ridiculously over-extended sub-genre label? If we're being realistic, and not looking through your skewed perspective of convenientely arguable reality, then only 40% of trance is as melody and drama driven as you suggest. And then this 40% is suddenly and pop and whatever else you think will degrade it, because it is driven by a hook! Bollocks, Ish, pure bollocks.
You remind me of Guitarded, or "it's not on real instruments!" or whatever other stupid argument people will level against any EDM style or track. If you honestly judge music on where it came from, or what it calls itself then you're taking the wrong look at it. Because who gives a ? If it's a good track, then it's a good track. And there are epic trance tracks, and there are ing outstanding ones. Just like there are for classic trance, or acid trance, or psy or french house or big beat or jungle or whatever. So give this obstinate bias against EIGHT YEARS OF MUSIC a rest, because it's neither big nor very clever. |
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| Aiwendil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zombie0915
I sure would like to hear a set that had that sorta entrancing affect. |
If you want to try and find it on CD, you can look Here, Here, Here, Here, Here, Here, Here, Here, Here, Here, Here, Here, Here, or Here.
Or you could try and find These sets by contacting the guy. He's about to release part four though. |
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