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| h0tsweetbabyd0l |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4404362.stm
the situation is dramatic it has been the seventh night that we have riots in Paris and i guess it will go on tonite ...they burnt hundred of cars a renault dealer and more 2 cops and 3 firemen have been injuried and in the video in the news journalists had to leave their car because they have been attacked by the hooligans ...in the video we see them burning the car and turning upside down .....though our PM dominique de villepin try to calm everyone down it seems like the situation has gone out of control.....
my gosh this country is going crazy ....this and the strikes all over the country especially in marseille 31 days in a raw and it's not over .....what could we do to calm everyone down and make the situation goes normal again?:( :conf: |
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| HardTranceProd |
| quote: | Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l
could we do to calm everyone down and make the situation goes normal again?:( :conf: |
make love :) which is what the French are supposed to do, anyway ;) |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4404362.stm
the situation is dramatic it has been the seventh night that we have riots in Paris and i guess it will go on tonite ...they burnt hundred of cars a renault dealer and more 2 cops and 3 firemen have been injuried and in the video in the news journalists had to leave their car because they have been attacked by the hooligans ...in the video we see them burning the car and turning upside down .....though our PM dominique de villepin try to calm everyone down it seems like the situation has gone out of control.....
my gosh this country is going crazy ....this and the strikes all over the country especially in marseille 31 days in a raw and it's not over .....what could we do to calm everyone down and make the situation goes normal again?:( :conf: |
I've been seeing this on CNN for a couple of days now (curious why it was ignored for the first few, maybe they thought it'd go away), but I'm still not really understanding the motivation behind the rioting. I see that it started with the accidental electrocution of some teenagers who were fleeing police, but what's the reason that this is still going on? |
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| h0tsweetbabyd0l |
these people are young ....and they are the same who are causing troubles here ....they are revolted because they are poor and not integrated in the society but do they make effort to be integrated?no not at all unlike their parents who came in the 60's or 70's from north africa for building france after the WWII who have been integrated these kids have no respect .....if u say something they will say u are racist or call u "ing white " they hate any form of authority and just blame the whole society for being poor and unemployed ....most of them are stealing and dealing drugs and are into delinquence .....these people hide behind the death of these 2 kids the real reason of their riots is that they hate the cops they hate everything and want to show their strengh
the sad thing is doing that they are giving a wrong image of the immigrants ....don't blame france but blame these kids ....with their actions they are won't help to impress the image of themselves |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| Personally I think the best thing would be if the military would round up those jekrs and send them all off back to Africa. |
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| HardTranceProd |
I am scheduled to visit Paris Dec. 1-3, what am I supposed to do? :(
The airline company won't cancel any reservations because they haven't received any statement from the State Dept :rolleyes: |
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| Fir3start3r |
This problem is a lot bigger than just teenagers taking advantage of the situation but it certainly is horrible...:wtf:
Here's to hoping for a peaceful resolution...
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Paris Rioters Set Woman Afire as Violence Spreads
Friday, November 04, 2005
AUBERVILLIERS, France — Marauding bands of Muslim youth set fire to cars and warehouses and pelted rescuers with rocks early Saturday, as the worst rioting in a decade spread from Paris to other French cities. The United States warned Americans against taking trains to the airport via strife-torn areas.
A savage assault on a bus passenger highlighted the dangers of travel in Paris' Muslim-filled and impoverished outlying neighborhoods, where the violence has entered its second week.
The African immigrant attackers doused the woman, in her 50s and on crutches, with an inflammable liquid and set her afire as she tried to get off a bus in the suburb of Sevran (search) Wednesday, judicial officials said. The bus had been forced to stop because of burning objects in its path. She was rescued by the driver and hospitalized with severe burns.
Justice Minister Pascal Clement (search) deplored the incident, saying it caused him "great emotion."
Rioters burned more than 500 vehicles Friday as the unrest grew beyond the French capital for the first time. Unrest returned to the streets in the evening and early Saturday, the ninth night in a row.
Police said troublemakers fired bullets into a vandalized bus and burned 85 more cars in Paris and Suresnes, just to the west. In Meaux (search), east of Paris, officials said youths stoned rescuers aiding someone who had fallen ill.
Meanwhile, warehouses in Suresnes and Aubervilliers, on the northern edge of Paris, were set ablaze. Officials said other fires raged outside the capital in Lille, Toulouse, and Rouen, while an incendiary device was tossed at the wall outside a synagogue in Pierrefitte, northwest of Paris.
Some 30 mayors from the Seine-Saint-Denis region (search) where the unrest started Oct. 27 met Friday to make a joint call for calm. Claude Pernes, mayor of Rosny-sous-Bois, denounced a "veritable guerrilla situation, urban insurrection" that has taken hold.
A national police spokesman, Patrick Hamon, said there appeared to be no coordination among gangs in different areas. But he said youths in individual neighborhoods were communicating by cell phone text messages or e-mails — arranging meetings and warning each other about police operations.
The violence started Oct. 27 after the accidental electrocution of two teenagers who believed police were chasing them in the Seine-Saint-Denis region, dominated by low-income housing projects.
Since then riots have swelled into a broader challenge against the French state and its security forces. The violence has exposed deep discontent in neighborhoods where African and Muslim immigrants and their French-born children are trapped by poverty, unemployment, racial discrimination, crime, poor education and housing.
During the day Friday, the burned remains of at least 520 cars littered Parisian streets, an increase from previous nights. Five police officers were lightly injured by youths throwing stones or bottles, the Interior Ministry said.
At a depot in Trappes, to the southwest, 27 buses were incinerated, officials said.
The commuter train line linking Paris to Charles de Gaulle (search) airport ran limited service Friday after two trains were targeted Wednesday night.
The U.S. Embassy (search) called the protests "extremely violent" and warned travelers against taking trains to the airport because they pass through the troubled area. Russia, meanwhile, warned citizens against visiting the suburbs.
The Foreign Ministry said it was concerned that foreign media coverage was exaggerating the situation. "I don't have the feeling that foreign tourists in Paris are in any way placed in danger by these events," ministry spokesman Jean-Baptiste Mattei said, adding that officials were "sometimes a bit surprised" by the foreign coverage.
Still, the violence has alarmed the government of President Jacques Chirac (search), whose calls for calm have gone unheeded.
"This is the first time (suburban violence) has lasted so long and the government appears taken aback at the magnitude," said Pascal Perrineau, director of the Center for Study of French Political Life.
There were "few direct clashes" with security forces late Thursday and early Friday, however, no bullets fired at police, and far fewer large groups of rioters, said Jean-Francois Cordet, the top government official in Seine-Saint-Denis.
Instead, Cordet said, the unrest in Seine-Saint-Denis was led by "numerous small and highly mobile groups" that burned 187 vehicles and five buildings, including three warehouses.
The unrest erupted with youths angered over the deaths of Bouna Traore, 15, and Zyed Benna, 17, who were electrocuted when they hid in a power substation in the suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois.
Traore's brother, Siyakah Traore, called for protesters to "calm down and stop ransacking everything."
"This is not how we are going to have our voices heard," he told RTL radio, adding his voice to neighborhood groups working to stop the violence.
Dozens of residents and community leaders were stepping in to defuse tensions, with some walking between rioters and police to urge youths to back down.
Abderrhamane Bouhout, head of the Bilal mosque in Clichy-sous-Bois (search), said he had enlisted 50 youths to try stop the violence. "We've had positive results," he said.
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| trancaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Personally I think the best thing would be if the military would round up those jekrs and send them all off back to Africa. |
I'd suggest ordering the military to shoot at sight - and to kill or maim. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| Wow, this situation is really ed up. :( |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
This problem is a lot bigger than just teenagers taking advantage of the situation but it certainly is horrible...:wtf:
Here's to hoping for a peaceful resolution...
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FOXNews? What a credible source... :rolleyes: I suggest you watch Outfoxed. If you want to embarace yourself and/or not be taken seriously at all, go ahead and use Fox as a source. :stongue: |
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| trancaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
FOXNews? What a credible source... :rolleyes: I suggest you watch Outfoxed. If you want to embarace yourself and/or not be taken seriously at all, go ahead and use Fox as a source. :stongue: |
I tried to search around for other sources, and those I was able to find all talked of the woman being hit by a molotov cocktail during the raid on the bus. While technically this equates pouring flamable liquid over her and setting it afire, I do think that the FoxNews text is kind of misleading. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancaholic
I tried to search around for other sources, and those I was able to find all talked of the woman being hit by a molotov cocktail during the raid on the bus. While technically this equates pouring flamable liquid over her and setting it afire, I do think that the FoxNews text is kind of misleading. |
That was exactly my point. FOX News is supposed to be misleading, inspire hate, support political agendas. It's nothing put a propoganda tool. Check out the documentary link in my previous post (and reviews).
EDIT: Fox is the king of "spin." A euphemism for distorting news to propoganda. |
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