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| Nabistai |
| quote: | Originally posted by kamil
Found them!
Killing Infidels in the Quran:
-Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2
-Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89
-If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91
-Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom. 5:33
Source:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.c...uelty/long.html
Wow, disguisting. |
Lol, I don't know what's written in the Quran, but I read some stuff that was in the 'Bible' section
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Genesis
# "God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good." He purposefully designed a system that ensures the suffering and death of all his creatures, parasite and host, predator and prey. 1:31
# God likes Abel's dead animals better than Cain's fruits and vegetables. Why? Well, no reason is given, but it probably has something to do with the amount of pain, blood, and gore involved. 4:3-5
# Because God liked Abel's animal sacrifice more than Cain's vegetables, Cain kills his brother Abel in a fit of religious jealousy. 4:8
# God is angry. He decides to destroy all humans, beasts, creeping things, fowls, and "all flesh wherein there is breath of life." He plans to drown them all. 6:7, 17
# God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4
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I'm not a Christian freak (infact I despise religions). But I'm pretty sure that this is utter crap. |
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| kamil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nabistai
Lol, I don't know what's written in the Quran, but I read some stuff that was in the 'Bible' section
I'm not a Christian freak (infact I despise religions). But I'm pretty sure that this is utter crap. |
I used to be christian, now atheist/agnostic, I can tell you right now that at least the Bible passages presented on that site are 100% correct. They wouldnt slam the bible with lies to make a statement, would they? I would say its fair to assume the same about the Quran.
Regardless, both religions have a history of violence, but because muslims are uncivilised and backwards, they are going through the same times as christians were during the crusades.
The problem is, how does the civilised world handle these noobs? |
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| Soliman |
Easy guys,
I am a muslim and i dont believe in in violence and i dont believe that all no believers should be dead and i esp. dont understand what iran and binladi are trying to do they give us muslims a bad name, but i guess you learn to live with.
Most of the things stated here are just idiotic stereo type
Belive what you want but trust me this all (for the most)just pure
Peace,
soliman |
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| Soliman |
| quote: | Originally posted by kamil
Found them!
Killing Infidels in the Quran:
-Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2
-Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89
-If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91
-Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom. 5:33
Source:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.c...uelty/long.html
Wow, disguisting. |
Now trust me that not true, i have alot of friends that are non believers the problem is that you guys judge islam on a minority of backwards idiots thinking they are fighting the devine war.
Think about it where do most of thease wack jobs come from???
Iraq had a butcher for a pres. now it has a war on its hands.
Iran, libya and syria all have either problems with israel or not jobs for leaders if not both.
The only passage in the quran that says we ought to fight says that if someone invades your country you should fight back.
since the middle east is still growing and shaping itself up there is alot of poverty so terrorists pray on those ppl and tell them that if they fight they will live happily ever after in heavan which is complete Bull
hope this clears up a few points will get to more later
Peace,
Solima |
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| Soliman |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jocker
people, who think like you, go on their peace-keeping and educational missions to middle-east. the next thing they know, they're standing on their knees with a knife to their throat in front of a camera begging their government to release so many muslim inmates or whatever.
you have to understand it: this is not about education. they don't want your culture, they don't want your values, and they don't want your education. |
may i ask what you are bassing that statement on? |
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| Soliman |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonSun
Mohammed chased old ladys for some coin & beat snatch. He killed Jews, Christains & Arabs. He used religion as a reason to raid citys. Sold women & children into slavery after killing thier husbands & fathers. I guess if Alexander said he talked to God, there would be a billion people following his word today. |
Can i ask where you got that information? |
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| Soliman |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tiger777
Isn't it prohibited in muslim countries to educate women...? |
Nope that just worried fathers that dont wanna send their daughters to school so they dont get laid lol |
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| Jocker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Soliman
may i ask what you are bassing that statement on? |
i don't quite understand what you mean by "bassing". stressing is what you meant? i'm not stressing it, i am saying that there are A LOT of radical-thinking muslims nowadays. in fact, so many, that it becomes a global problem. you said yourself that you are not radical, maybe you and other people like you should spend more time educating those young fellas who later become suicide bomber material. it seems that peaceful muslims like yourself don't do enough to remedy this growing issue. |
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| jonSun |
| quote: | Originally posted by Soliman
Can i ask where you got that information? |
Its the conclusion i came to after reading up on Mohammed & Islam a while back. But... I did a quick google & the first site i got on the history of Islam & it basically tells a similar story.
http://www.truthnet.org/islam/whatisislam.html
| quote: | | At the age of 25, Mohammed marries a 40 year old wealthy, widow named Khadijah who owns trading caravans. |
Thats chasing an old piece of snatch for some coin.
| quote: | | At age 40 Mohammed had his first vision in the year 610 AD. He was in a cave on Mt. Hera and thought he was demon possessed. He went to Khadijah and told her about the event. She consulted with her uncle Waraca, a Hanefite who converted to Christianity, who assured them Mohammed vision was from God. |
On that day he went a lil too crazy with the chronic & opium.
| quote: | | Mohammed and the Muslims attacked the last remaining Jewish tribe. The tribe surrendered to the mercy of Mohammed. The men were killed and the women and children were sold into slavery. |
Well at least he didnt kill the women & children.
| quote: | | Two years later, in January 630, Mohammed leads 10,000 warriors to Mecca and nullifies the treaty of Hudaybiah because Muslims have been killed. The city submits to Mohammed and his warriors and accepts him as prophet. Mohammed goes to the Kaba and destroys the 360 idols in the structure. From Mecca, the “Muslims” wage Jihad on the surrounding cities forcing them to accept Islam as their religion and Mohammed as their prophet. |
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| Jocker |
well, there goes your peacefulness.
http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds...afx2512091.html
100 kilograms of gold will be given to anyone, who kills 12 Danish cartoonists. Also, 5 kilograms of gold will be given to anyone, who kills a Danish, a Norwegian or a German soldier.
also, more than 100 men have already enlisted to carry out suicide bombings in retaliation.
this is getting out of control:(:whip: :whip: |
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| DarkAngel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jocker
well, there goes your peacefulness.
http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds...afx2512091.html
100 kilograms of gold will be given to anyone, who kills 12 Danish cartoonists. Also, 5 kilograms of gold will be given to anyone, who kills a Danish, a Norwegian or a German soldier.
also, more than 100 men have already enlisted to carry out suicide bombings in retaliation.
this is getting out of hand:(:whip: :whip: |
Fixed. |
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| Jocker |
yay
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