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Brazil Tells USA to F.... off when it comes to Sex, Condoms, and Prostitution (pg. 5)
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| Shamen DJ's |
| quote: | Originally posted by Erotic Buddha
lol at you making a hissy fit cuz im "singling" you out
don't worry i single out all liberal whackos in here not just you |
When have you ever said anything intelligent to explain your "Conservative" views if you are a real conservative, and not just trying to offend people. You dont have any right to be calling anyone "Liberal Whacos" if you dont have an intelligent explaination to as why the Conservative way is any better. I'm seriously believing now that Conservatives have nothing left to offer this country because all they can come up with is name calling.
This forum is for mature people interested in political science, if you want to act like a school yard bully on the internet, then no one here will listen to or respect your opinions. Unlike you, there are a few Conservatives here whose opinions I do respect, and who may have notice that I am really a moderate Southern Democrat, and that I am very tough on Crime, Welfare Abuse, Corperate & Environmental Crime & Terrorism ( I believe we have lost our focus on Afghanistan ). I think the Democratic Party needs to:
- Talk to Moderate Christian voters who are turned of by the Far Right & Republican political posturing ( which I call "pimping Jesus")
- Take the high ground in National Security. There are alot of Iraq War Veterans running for Congress & Senate this fall as Democrats. Bush has lost his credibility as a Military Commander in Chief using the U.S. Armed Forces to wage a personal war against Saddam Hussein who attempted to assassinate his father.
- Focus on integrity & rule of law.
- Focus on being the party for small & limited government. Since the Bush administration has destroyed that Republican Ideal.
- Represent working Americans, including the working poor.
While the Democratic Party is far from perfect right now, and needs to present itself as a United Front, and not just count on getting elected for being the lesser of two evils. As for the Republicans, the Bush Administration makes me sick & the Republican Congress & Senate hasn't stood up to him on anything til recently. It is too late. There is no way in hell I will vote for more of the same in November. The Republican Party has shown it is more willing to protect their own personal interest than that of the American people. |
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| tathi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamen DJ's
What an awesome country. What brings you to Chile. Everything from their current economy, natural beauty, and the people there make me consider it a definate possibility for retirement ( a long time away ). |
It's natural beauty definately, i really want to get into trekking in the andes, mountainclimbing, white water rafting etc; plus they are beautifully generous people, its such a nice culture. It's at the bottom of South America so i can work my way up the continenet getting work in as many countries as i can :) |
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| Kapedan |
| Shamen, do you have a life? I mean you post all these long threads dude, is PDD your full time job or what. |
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| Shamen DJ's |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kapedan
Shamen, do you have a life? I mean you post all these long threads dude, is PDD your full time job or what. |
You spend more time on here than me. |
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| Kapedan |
| Well I mean, I am 17. Your propobly 25 or so. Im still in school and plus I work alot too, but whenever I have free time, I'm here. |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kapedan
Well I mean, I am 17. Your propobly 25 or so. Im still in school and plus I work alot too, but whenever I have free time, I'm here. |
17? You don't say. Really, who would have guessed?
Why are you posting here if you're pathetically attempting to criticize others for providing the slightest bit of substance behind their arguments? At least he's attempting to debate an issue with some argumentation. All I've seen from you are infantile ad-hominems that are barely longer than two sentences. Why exactly are you here? Do you not understand the nature of this forum or did you accidentally make a wrong turn on your way to the COR? This isn't the place to up your post count kid. |
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| Kapedan |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
17? You don't say. Really, who would have guessed?
Why are you posting here if you're pathetically attempting to criticize others for providing the slightest bit of substance behind their arguments? At least he's attempting to debate an issue with some argumentation. All I've seen from you are infantile ad-hominems that are barely longer than two sentences. Why exactly are you here? Do you not understand the nature of this forum or did you accidentally make a wrong turn on your way to the COR? This isn't the place to up your post count kid. |
Because I can. Is there an age limit for this thread u idiot. Most of you so called adults in here dont even have common sense including you, so dont act like your superior because you arent. |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kapedan
Because I can. Is there an age limit for this thread u idiot. Most of you so called adults in here dont even have common sense including you, so dont act like your superior because you arent. |
What remarkable insight into the cognitive brilliance that is Kapedan. The reason why you're here, posting your silly little ad-hominems the entire time, is because you "can". Well we're just breaking all the stereotypes now aren't we? Never in my mind could I ever imagine that a 17 year old could put together such a compelling case rationalizing their purpose here. No there isn't an age limit for the thread or this forum for that matter kid. There have been plenty of people younger than you who have made positive contributions by having the simple maturity to rationally discuss and debate issues. They had some higher purpose in mind other than to wax eloquentely in their immaturity and proudly display it like a badge of honor with every post they made. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
My sentiments here need repeating:
| quote: | | I'll tell ya what my little noobie PDD kiddies, from here on out let's attempt to try to formulate a coherent argument, try to back it up with sources if at all possible, and just once try to present a ing argument that utilizes as few as dip labels and silly generalizations as possible. This is ing becoming tedious and annoying as to immense proportions. I don't give a how young or how old you are - present a ing descent argument, the whole lot of you noobs, or find another ing forum to annoy people with your ing asinine, unsupported commentary. |
Enough kids. The COR bull stops here. This is not the place for it. You bring a descent argument with supported assertions, or don't come at all. You haven't earned any ing respect from anyone here by your continual inane posts. I'm sure that may not mean a ing hill of beans to you, but rest assured it won't get you very far by us who've been around this PDD block for some time now.
I welcome new posters any time. I welcome differing viewpoints, even when I disagree with them. But the asinine and logically fallacious, sophmoric bull comments are not scoring any ing points here.
So if you truly are lost, just replace the first "66" at the end of your weblink with "16", and that should bring you right to where commentary such as yours belongs. But if you feel that you aren't lost, if you feel you do belong here, then please make some sort of worthwhile attempt at a descent argument just this once. |
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| paranoik0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Enough kids. The COR bull stops here. This is not the place for it. You bring a descent argument with supported assertions, or don't come at all. |
excuse me? i don't agree in the slightest with Kapedan's points of view (using "points of view" very loosely here) but why do you feel yourself with the right of demanding high quality from other posters? i thought this was a public forum where anyone can share their opinions on political matters, even if they aren't well fundamented?
i get the impression some regular posters here at PDD are more elitist than half the people over there in the music discussion room |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by paranoik0
excuse me? |
Feel free to excuse yourself as you see fit.
| quote: | | i don't agree in the slightest with Kapedan's points of view (using "points of view" very loosely here) but why do you feel yourself with the right of demanding high quality from other posters? |
Certainly not all posts by myself, Occ, or other long-term vets. are always "high-quality" by any stretch. However, I think you'll rarely find very few of us caught in the middle of a debate to bring a particular point of view across without giving supporting weight behind our assertions.
Doing this once or twice I don't even blink. Doing this on a consistent basis the way that a healthy number of new folks here are doing is what I want to nip right in the ass now. Not all the new folks, mind you, but the one in question here is definitely on the list.
| quote: | | i thought this was a public forum where anyone can share their opinions on political matters, even if they aren't well fundamented? |
Sure is, just as it is a public forum for free expression for individuals such as myself to call people's bull out when I see it on a consistent and persistent basis. I consider this forum to a certain high standard as many vet. posters tend to agree, and I want to keep those standards high. You and anyone else are welcome to post asinine comments and meritless assertions 'till you're blue in the face. I am not a mod. nor would I ever consider having a mod. close threads just for that reason.
But on the same token, I will continue to call people out when I feel strongly about the quality of threads going to , which many of them here clearly are. They are becoming more and more similar to the COR threads of ad hominem and dip labelling without supporting evidence. So just as those twits have the freedom to post mindless commentary, I have the similar notion to tell them to get their together and try to form a descent argument for a change.
| quote: | | i get the impression some regular posters here at PDD are more elitist than half the people over there in the music discussion room |
Quite honestly, your impressions are irrelevant to me. I do not visit nor care to visit the Music Discussion, and such commentary pertaining to music is not even a neuron's worth of interest to me compared to the reality of how governments and politics control and dictate our world. I'm sorry if I have passion for such events. Call me crazy, I guess. However I've found such craziness is shared with many here who've posted over the years.
Now asking a relatively new poster that I don't know from adam to form a coherent argument with supporting evidence is not in any way too ing much to ask anyone. I fail to see how this could be considered outlandish by any stretch of the imagination. I've personally held my tongue for months now on a few posters who continue to post thoughtless tripe just to see exactly where it will go. You simply must excuse me for finally calling them out to actually hold some thought behind their posts and bring a supporting argument.
Killer concept, I know. |
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| Shamen DJ's |
As someone who became interested in politics because my father was a 3 term mayor in a community in Ontario, Canada; I would seriously recommend that Kapedan be more careful in what he posts on this forum if he seriously considers a future in politics. One reason my father was so successful was
1) He ran the town as a business, and didn't mix ideology with his job
2) He got things done, people there mostly cared about good roads, snow removal, community policing, schools, agricultural interests, his handling of 2 major flood disasters, and stuff for the community interest ( parks, tennis courts, cultural, etc.). Unlike recent trends in the U.S. people there wanted to see results, not talk.
3) He never ran his mouth. Much of his political support was from that communities large ethnic community. All it would have taken is one stupid comment & that can cost you in all elections permanently.
Some examples of how one comment can permanently affect someones political futures is:
1) Howard Deans public televised screech. He was a very intelligent politicial who ran Vermont very vell ( Conservatively fiscally )but his one overplayed publically embarrassing moment may have cost him his nomination.
2) Barry Goldwaters comments about dropping nukes on Vietnam certainly helped cost him his Presidental election. In fact the Democrats took advantage of those comments to air television commercials of kids hiding under wooden school desks while the world is evaporating.
As someone who is the youngest ever member of the Neighbourhood Executive Committee I am always having to be careful in everything I say, especially when people complain about their personal feuds with other neighbours.
Kepedan, if you are serious about Politics be careful in what you say. Your views clearly show that you are outside Mainstream U.S. Politics and your comments about Women on the Abortion thread could cost you the support of half the people in this country; you likely offended alot of men with that comment too. Politics is a dirty game, you should know that, you learned alot from Rush Limbaugh such as calling everyone that disagrees with you Liberals - like it means anything anymore. You can guarantee that if you ever run for a public position that your opponents will try to dig dirt on you, as im sure you would do, and your making it very easy. You comments here are alot more public than alot of comments that made Samual Alitos nomination to the supreme court alot different than it had to be. |
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