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what do u think of legal prostitution? (pg. 4)
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| DaveSZ |
| quote: | Originally posted by CranberryJuice
so it was on the news again ....for u european u maybe know that in germany prostitution is legal and brothels are a common thing ....so as u know in next june it's the world cup in germany so they were showing that next to the berlin stadium they built like a big brothel very luxurous with sauna and swimming pool and bedrooms for the future customers .....the owner of the brother was saying a lot of supporters will probably go to have some fun and that all this future money will be good as well for berlin's city they also interviewed a prostitute ( very ugly one but had a nice body) :p and she said indeed she was paying taxes had welfare and it was good that here in germany prostitution is legal .....right now there are around 400,000 prostitutes in germany (not all of them are voluntaries) but everyday in germany 1 million of customers go see the prostitutes (when u think germany has like 82 millions of people !!!):eyes: but what do u think?
in france brothels have been closed decades ago but some debates are still on to see if we should open them up again.....
im pretty mixed up actually ....of course it would be a good idea if prostitutes were having welfare in case they get sick or ....and everything but it's hard for me to believe that some girls become prostitutes by choice ....im sure it exists but to me it's a minority ....to me most of girls become prostitutes because of networks ..mafia and pimps ...so i just wanted your opinion about legal prostitution |
Here you go:
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsA...&archived=False |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
O0o0o0o now you start thinking twice about it. |
yeah, cause we all regret what we said here now :rolleyes: |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
how can one be forced into a legal industry? (except the military :mad: ) |
I recall a story about a German woman living in a jurisdiction that had legal prostitution that was denied social assistance because she turned down a job as a prostitute. I wish I had more details on this but it was a quick hit news headline on the radio and I was out of my truck before they came back from commercial to give the rest of the story. |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by CranberryJuice
and Btw St_andrew well he told me he didn't want to go on TA because he wanted to have more time for school that's his "plan" as he told me last night but yeah sweden should open brothels with animals to satisfy customers .....St_andrew would be in heaven :stongue: |
So what's with the name change? |
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| Zombie0915 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I recall a story about a German woman living in a jurisdiction that had legal prostitution that was denied social assistance because she turned down a job as a prostitute. I wish I had more details on this but it was a quick hit news headline on the radio and I was out of my truck before they came back from commercial to give the rest of the story. |
thats the im talking about, prostitution should only be legalized when we are absolutely sure that everyone who becomes a prostitute wants to be a prostitute, and when people want to quit prostititing themselves have a reasonable amount of other choices. We cant hae legal prostitution sucking people in who do not want to be there. |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
yeah, cause we all regret what we said here now :rolleyes: |
you, ofcourse, speak for ALL the men. let me guess you're just going to go to that whole "men have different needs" or something lol?
point wasn't that women don't have these needs but men always have double standards and arguing against that is foolish. i can garauntee that at least here in the States, if they try to make both male and female prostitution legal men will object. they think they can go out and do whatever and still expect their women to be faithfull to them. |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zombie0915
thats the im talking about, prostitution should only be legalized when we are absolutely sure that everyone who becomes a prostitute wants to be a prostitute, and when people want to quit prostititing themselves have a reasonable amount of other choices. We cant hae legal prostitution sucking people in who do not want to be there. |
Come on. Except in very specific examples, that statement is a load of crap. Prostitution "sucks people in who don't want to be there?" You could make the same argument for every single damn profession in the world. We can't have the legal system making lawyers out of people who don't want to be lawyers. In the end, it's all about a business that generates income for people. Don't diss prostitution simply because it can be a lucrative job that requires very little effort. That's not forcing someone to do something, that's providing a powerful incentive for someone who may only be concerned with making as much money possible for as little work as possible. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
you, ofcourse, speak for ALL the men. let me guess you're just going to go to that whole "men have different needs" or something lol?
point wasn't that women don't have these needs but men always have double standards and arguing against that is foolish. i can garauntee that at least here in the States, if they try to make both male and female prostitution legal men will object. they think they can go out and do whatever and still expect their women to be faithfull to them. |
yes, and that last paragraph applies perfectly to the PDD posters you tried to shock with that question... |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I recall a story about a German woman living in a jurisdiction that had legal prostitution that was denied social assistance because she turned down a job as a prostitute. I wish I had more details on this but it was a quick hit news headline on the radio and I was out of my truck before they came back from commercial to give the rest of the story. |
and if prostitution was not legal there, which occupation would you replace it with in the quote "german woman...was denied social assistance because she turned down a job as a ____"?
point being: would an alternative to prostitution in that blank disturb you to the same degree? |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
and if prostitution was not legal there, which occupation would you replace it with in the quote "german woman...was denied social assistance because she turned down a job as a ____"?
point being: would an alternative to prostitution in that blank disturb you to the same degree? |
nope but it would millions of people :). so what you saying is some woman/girl/female/w/e denied a job as a prostitute? Good. so she has morals and dignity. ;)
which degrading job? hmm, secratary could be degrading to her, as could be a crosswalk crossing helper, special ed teacher, garbage..women?, lol etc.
more importantly, you honestly think that prostitution will decrease rape significantly or anything of that nature? i doubt it. also, alot of these prostitution rings (in less developed i guess is the word) countries are organized and ran by mobs and criminals, white collar or so. so what good will legal prostitution bring? except if it's controlled, less spread of STDs due to sexual intercourse. |
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| Lopitrance |
Legal prostitution is going a bit far a la dutch style IMO, however controlled drug use would be good I think.
I dont mean, let everyone take drugs a few times a month under any circumstances, but if you are classified as a clear ADDICT with no real hope of return, government controlled facilities that just give you the cleanest and safest drugs and keep you away from everyone else... that would be a good idea, in my opinion. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
and if prostitution was not legal there, which occupation would you replace it with in the quote "german woman...was denied social assistance because she turned down a job as a ____"?
point being: would an alternative to prostitution in that blank disturb you to the same degree? |
If she turned down a job as a waitress and was therefore denied assistance I would not be disturbed at all. You have to keep in mind that many people have a deep routed moral objection to prostitution which could make it extremely difficult to live with themselves if they engaged in it. Additionally, there are a multitude of personal health and safety risks associated with this profession that one must consider and chances are many constitutions would hold one cannot be forced to accept (certainly Canada's right to security of the person would fall into this catagory). Now, I'm actually in favour of legalizing the sex trade, however, if one were to do that special allowances need to be made with regard to all manner of Social Assistance programs, health and disability insurance polices, workman's compensation plans, etc. in order to ensure these institutions/companies could not force people to enter the sex trade or lose their benefits. That is simply unacceptable as it is essentially legislating morality much the same as making prostitution illegal has been an attempt to legislate morality. |
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