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what do u think of legal prostitution? (pg. 6)
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
so what good will legal prostitution bring? except if it's controlled, less spread of STDs due to sexual intercourse. |
what good will it bring? the same good legal stock brokering brings.
and anyways, why disregard the decreased spread of STDs to begin with?
such a redundant question... there's no more reason prostitution should be illegal than there is for any other profession. i would like to think that's reason enough for it to be legal. |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
Well, you should look into it. Trust me on this lol.
You know what's funny....I keep hearing "legal prostitution" and "men's needs" and "girls check ups" and all that BUT...wouldn't it be fair for WOMEN to be able to get prostitutes, too? O0o0o0o now you start thinking twice about it. |
I don't see what's wrong with that either. ladies should have the right for it too... |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I recall a story about a German woman living in a jurisdiction that had legal prostitution that was denied social assistance because she turned down a job as a prostitute. I wish I had more details on this but it was a quick hit news headline on the radio and I was out of my truck before they came back from commercial to give the rest of the story. |
That sucks. What ever happen to tech school or university? Don't they give out financial aid over there? |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
you, ofcourse, speak for ALL the men. let me guess you're just going to go to that whole "men have different needs" or something lol?
point wasn't that women don't have these needs but men always have double standards and arguing against that is foolish. i can garauntee that at least here in the States, if they try to make both male and female prostitution legal men will object. they think they can go out and do whatever and still expect their women to be faithfull to them. |
I agree here. I'm male and live in the US and think US laws are severely outdated and that much of the general population has too many double standard - especially regarding anything romantic/sexual-wise. Good example might be people saying it should be OK for a guy and a lady to French kiss and maybe even two ladies, but two guys are off limits. That's a shame. I say all or none. Must be equal. |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
and if prostitution was not legal there, which occupation would you replace it with in the quote "german woman...was denied social assistance because she turned down a job as a ____"?
point being: would an alternative to prostitution in that blank disturb you to the same degree? |
I would react the same way if it were telemarketing. But then again, I'm personally against it due to doing it for 40 days before and hating it. So biased, I am....... |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
what good will it bring? the same good legal stock brokering brings.
and anyways, why disregard the decreased spread of STDs to begin with?
such a redundant question... there's no more reason prostitution should be illegal than there is for any other profession. i would like to think that's reason enough for it to be legal. |
prostitution is the same as any other profesion? haha yeah ok ;). how would it really decrease the spread of STDs? and it won't be a front for drugs and criminal activity like some strip clubs. |
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
prostitution is the same as any other profesion? haha yeah ok ;). how would it really decrease the spread of STDs? and it won't be a front for drugs and criminal activity like some strip clubs. |
Why isn't prostitution the same as any other profession? Because of the potential spread of disease? What about the same risk in fast food or grocery? Because of women forced by circumstance into prostitution? What about humans forced into other lines of work like mining or working on an oil rig?
I think the only reason there is any hangup about it is because of the taboo nature of sex in many countries. Im sure this has already been said, but it bears repeating. I still have yet to hear a good rationale for banning prostitution across the board; all moral arguments aside.
I wouldn't use a prostitute but I don't care to stop those who would. Our government money andd time (at least in the US) is better spent on other things, I think. |
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| Lepanto |
No, the risk of working in food or meat packing or window washer isn't nearly as dangerous to you and OTHERS as prostitution. who's FORCED into working a mine? except people who are born into mining towns and are content with with, not the same as being forced or sold into something because your family was mortally threatened.
If you think there's nothing wrong with husbands and wives going out ing then congrats to you.
And morals are what builds charecter, groups and nations. and should not be taken lightly. If you say morals shouldn't be included than i guess the concept of the movie hostel is ok too ;) |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
No, the risk of working in food or meat packing or window washer isn't nearly as dangerous to you and OTHERS as prostitution. who's FORCED into working a mine? except people who are born into mining towns and are content with with, not the same as being forced or sold into something because your family was mortally threatened.
If you think there's nothing wrong with husbands and wives going out ing then congrats to you.
And morals are what builds charecter, groups and nations. and should not be taken lightly. If you say morals shouldn't be included than i guess the concept of the movie hostel is ok too ;) |
you havent answered tribu's question as to why prostitution is different to any other profession. youre not having one of those US hangups regarding sex i warned you about are you? hahaha.
and the legality of brothels or prostitution would have neglible effect on the numbers of women forced into the profession. it would continue regardless. people will misuse any institution or technology or economic structure, regardless of whether there is a legal basis for its existence or not.
if you DONT think its ok for husbands or wives to go out and hire a prostitute i suggest you start keeping your so-called morals to yourself and stop preaching against what consenting adults choose to do in their spare time. youre far too uptight and oppressed lepanto, which is fine. but that doesnt mean you have any right to start pushing your moralising bull onto other people. |
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
No, the risk of working in food or meat packing or window washer isn't nearly as dangerous to you and OTHERS as prostitution. who's FORCED into working a mine? except people who are born into mining towns and are content with with, not the same as being forced or sold into something because your family was mortally threatened.
If you think there's nothing wrong with husbands and wives going out ing then congrats to you.
And morals are what builds charecter, groups and nations. and should not be taken lightly. If you say morals shouldn't be included than i guess the concept of the movie hostel is ok too ;) |
I disagree that those jobs are any less dangerous than responsible prostitution. Prostitutes can protect themselves with a variety of methods similar to how meat packers use gloves and breathing filters or window washers use harnesses. Likewise, customers would have an equal interest in protecting themselves from disease like those who eat meat do when they cook their products beyond a certain temperature.
Who is forced intoworking in a mine, you ask. Well, the idea of physically forcing someone aside, circumstances can leave people with no education and no ability to do anything but preform simple manual labor. To support yourself in dire times, you will accept any work, and this includes miners. The threats don't need to be spoken; if you don't work, you die. If you want to look at it on a global scale, ask child workers in African diamond mines if they want to be there. Ask them if any threats were received against them or their families, or if they were kidnapped and forced into mine work.
Obviously, I think theres a problem with spouse's cheating. And I agree that cheating numbers might experience a small increase, but I doubt they would skyrocket. I believe that people who are going to cheat on their wives/husbands are going to do so anyways, and between clubs and alcohol (not to mention illicit yet avaliable drugs) there are ample oppurtunities already. I would be willing to look at any proof you have linking infidelity to legalized prostitution.
Of course morals are important but they often can cloud a rational discussion. I think they should be set aside for this type of conversation because I find that many people's morals say things like, prostitution is bad because it promotes sex outside of marriage, or it degrades women. These thoughts cloud rational discourse because these ideas are subjective and we don't have a global human morality that we accept as law.
Finally, I don't think anyone is condoning the kidnapping and use of captives as prostitutes, even under a legalized prositution system. This heinous crime happens now and prostitution is illegal (in the United States). I think youre making a lot of generalizations and ignoring some of the more "successful" models of prostitution around the globe. Legalized prostitution doesn't mandate dangerous sex, forced intercourse, or infidelity anymore than broadcasting these actions on television does. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
And morals are what builds charecter, groups and nations. and should not be taken lightly. If you say morals shouldn't be included than i guess the concept of the movie hostel is ok too ;) |
so much esteem for morals, yet you want to force them on people by way of law? tsk tsk. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
prostitution is the same as any other profesion? haha yeah ok ;). how would it really decrease the spread of STDs? and it won't be a front for drugs and criminal activity like some strip clubs. |
legalization would likely enforce the use of contraceptives.
and as if restaurants, print shops, and any other similiar businesses can't serve as 'a front for drugs and criminal activity'.
it's really 'funny' that you claim to be not hung up about sexual issues. |
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