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what do u think of legal prostitution? (pg. 5)
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| occrider |
| The problem of a women being turned down for unemployment insurance because she turned down a job to be a prostitute can’t be that prevalent of a problem. I mean, being a stripper is pretty much legal everywhere, and I haven’t heard of any cases where a woman was denied unemployment insurance because she refused to be a stripper. It seems to me that there are plenty of women in the west who are on unemployment insurance, and I doubt that as part of the terms of their unemployment agreement they were all asked if they ever turned down stripping which would negate their right to unemployment. So I think that it’s a moot point with respect to prostitution unless there is substantial empirical evidence to suggest otherwise with universally legal "amoral" activities such as stripping, the adult entertainment industry, etc. |
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| HardTranceProd |
I absolutely agree with Occrider and Shakka.
There is really no difference between going to a strip club and prostitution, because in both cases you're paying money for sexual services. So nearly every male has used a sexual service at least once, e.g. getting a lap dance, etc. |
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| Zombie0915 |
| meh, I think it is feasible that some unfortunate people would have no other oppurtunity aside from sex labor, which is sad. Sex labor should be voluntary, otherwise society will be sexually abusing an entire class of people, and that is not something I feel too comfortable about institiutionalizing. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
If she turned down a job as a waitress and was therefore denied assistance I would not be disturbed at all. You have to keep in mind that many people have a deep routed moral objection to prostitution which could make it extremely difficult to live with themselves if they engaged in it. Additionally, there are a multitude of personal health and safety risks associated with this profession that one must consider and chances are many constitutions would hold one cannot be forced to accept (certainly Canada's right to security of the person would fall into this catagory). Now, I'm actually in favour of legalizing the sex trade, however, if one were to do that special allowances need to be made with regard to all manner of Social Assistance programs, health and disability insurance polices, workman's compensation plans, etc. in order to ensure these institutions/companies could not force people to enter the sex trade or lose their benefits. That is simply unacceptable as it is essentially legislating morality much the same as making prostitution illegal has been an attempt to legislate morality. |
security guards face as much (or more/less, not really relavant) personal health and safety risks as prostitutes, yet i hear of no cry to mention it as an occupation that one cannot be forced to accept in the various constitutions.
the reason for that is probably either that it is already mentioned as such (and nothing is stopping the ruling bodies to include prostitution under that bill aswell i presume), or, and more likely, that the safety risks are not really the concern here.
which brings us back to legislating morality... |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zombie0915
meh, I think it is feasible that some unfortunate people would have no other oppurtunity aside from sex labor, which is sad. Sex labor should be voluntary, otherwise society will be sexually abusing an entire class of people, and that is not something I feel too comfortable about institiutionalizing. |
and what is legalized prostitution more likely to lead to: more sex labour, or less? |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
nope but it would millions of people :). |
dont you mean the exact opposite? :conf:
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
more importantly, you honestly think that prostitution will decrease rape significantly or anything of that nature? i doubt it. |
considering rape is not often caused by a sexual desire, i dont see what relavance it has to this at all. |
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| DaveSZ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lopitrance
Legal prostitution is going a bit far a la dutch style IMO, however controlled drug use would be good I think.
I dont mean, let everyone take drugs a few times a month under any circumstances, but if you are classified as a clear ADDICT with no real hope of return, government controlled facilities that just give you the cleanest and safest drugs and keep you away from everyone else... that would be a good idea, in my opinion. |
I was under the impression that Canada (at least some provinces) had legal prostitution or at least turned a blind eye to it?
I guess I was wrong. |
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| HardTranceProd |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveSZ
I was under the impression that Canada (at least some provinces) had legal prostitution or at least turned a blind eye to it?
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That's correct. |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
dont you mean the exact opposite? :conf:
considering rape is not often caused by a sexual desire, i dont see what relavance it has to this at all. |
no i meant what i said ;)
no, often it is. and i asked a question, not given you a fact. and i'm still waiting for you to answer that. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
no, often it is. and i asked a question, not given you a fact. and i'm still waiting for you to answer that. |
source? coz i can tell you almost any research paper ive read on the subject says most rape has nothing at all to do with sexual frustration. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
no i meant what i said ;)
no, often it is. and i asked a question, not given you a fact. and i'm still waiting for you to answer that. |
and as i said, your question is irrelavant, and if you insist on a direct answer, one can be easily derived from my reply.
if you need me to spell it out: no, i dont think it will decrease the occurrence of rapes. |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
source? coz i can tell you almost any research paper ive read on the subject says most rape has nothing at all to do with sexual frustration. |
if you really want a good read on this http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/...nhill-rape.html
however, the argument im looking for is actually an article following this, that talks about brothels being a form of relaxation and thus reducing the high rate of rape and incest and satutory rape.
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
and as i said, your question is irrelavant, and if you insist on a direct answer, one can be easily derived from my reply.
if you need me to spell it out: no, i dont think it will decrease the occurrence of rapes. |
how is my question irrelavant if it's asking for a reason brothels should be built and prostitution legalized, gobbledegook? ;) |
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