Originally posted by tribu
I see your connection. However, that culture of fear existed well before 9/11 though whether its communist spies, the AIDS virus, or global terrorism. 9/11 is hardly the cause or root of this mentality.
Good point, but 9/11 certainly didn't help. It's a viscious circle and 911 has done nothing but accelerate it.
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So what's the problem with gathering to remember what happened 5 years ago?
There's a difference between gathering to remember the dead and gathering to maintain and enforce a fear.
In other words; Do you think americans really need to be reminded of what happened 5 years ago? Is all that constant footage of the towers falling and dust blowing through the street nessessary for people to remember that it happened? Or is it just that these media are fighting eachother over who's going to have the most sensational and over the top coverage to lure in americans who are already a little paranoid about the whole thing?
jdat
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Originally posted by tiesto14
Big difference.
1. September 11th victoms died at WORK not during a war with no warning of the attacks.
2. The civilians who died in Iraq died in a war zone with plenty of warnings.
I am not undermining ANY civilian casualties in either event...all i am saying is that there is a huge difference between the 2.
What options do civilians have in Iraq?
In the best of worlds they would be able to leave the conflict areas so they are not caught in cross fires but for too many reasons they aren't able to pick up their lives and simply leave.
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Originally posted by Theresa
Why isn't there a similar response to the daily 110 or so Iraqi civillians killed?
You and I don't determine the value of other peoples deaths.
It is most relevant to those directly affected and you are not in your right to question their response to the void created by missing family and friends who died in the events.
Perhaps the media response and exposure relating to 9/11 was excessive but it is what people find relevant there.
I am not demeaning the value of civilian deaths in Iraq but it is only human nature to respond to things in our close proximity and to which we can relate for having had emotional bonds with them, that is the ultimate reason why the Iraqi point of view from the inside is something that is never shown.
Nrg2Nfinit
tribu
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Originally posted by lex400sc
watch it:
" the power of nightmares "
Ok, I watched the whole thing and it really didnt answer my question. In fact, that video made use of some of the same tactics the politicans in question use when they try to build their case. But it really never explained why people shouldn't gather to remember the victims of 9/11. The media will exploit anything and everything to get views so whether you've staged a huge anti-war rally on the Capitol lawn or are gathering in some kind of freedom ceremony, you will see it on television.
As for Aquarian, of course I do believe the media is sensationalizing the event to make a buck. It not an uncommon theme. So what if they lure in those who are enraptured by the fear? Do you think that of 9/11 went by quietly that these people would let go of their disdain for "terrorists"?
EDIT: I Suppose my question is, Whats the problem?
dallastar
did anyone like my poem?
Temperate
I find this thread VERY disrespectful, especially since NYTA's and people from the surrounding area, who may have been directly affected, browse these forums.
I was in class today and we had a moment of silence. People cried and left the room.
jdat
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Originally posted by Temperate
I find this thread VERY disrespectful, especially since NYTA's and people from the surrounding area, who may have been directly affected, browse these forums.
I was in class today and we had a moment of silence. People cried and left the room.
I knew people who died because of the events but I usually don't mention it. People automatically label you :mad:
Nrg2Nfinit
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Originally posted by Temperate
I find this thread VERY disrespectful, especially since NYTA's and people from the surrounding area, who may have been directly affected, browse these forums.
I was in class today and we had a moment of silence. People cried and left the room.
i used to laugh when they played the bag pipes on rememberence day
it would always sound like a scottish man passing gas
Nrg2Nfinit
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Originally posted by jdat
I knew people who died because of the events but I usually don't mention it. People automatically label you :mad:
since when did you become jewish?
jdat
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Originally posted by Nou
Uh huh...
Seriously shut the up you god damn tool. You are one of the most idiotic people on this board. Your lack of logic is not only insulting to yourself, but to the people that accidently read your tripe.
I hope one day that war comes to your city and you eat your own words you ing fool.
lol Nou you realize he lives in New York :conf: :stongue:
Temperate
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Originally posted by dallastar
9/11 – what it means to me…
Five years ago to this day
Many Heroes unexpectedly parted their ways.
Through the rumble, terror and destruction
Where there were once were twin towers
Now we will forever lay flowers.
We were all witnesses to the terror in the air that day.
This is written in remembrance for all those we lost,
It’s now a place where some still hold their fingers crossed.
Wishing they could have found there loved ones,
Around the world today we will hear the silence of guns.
We shall all hold our head down in peace,
There was stillness in those moments that will last forever.
Today, all day, everyday we will remember the thousands that were lost,
Here, there and over seas still fighting for freedom
Is continuing world peace just some thing just for imagination?
Keep your fingers crossed that the moment isn’t lost.
~ Dallas McCaig
beautiful :)
dallastar
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Originally posted by Temperate
beautiful :)
thank you!
I am happy that someone read it and commented! Love you!
