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Do you think trance is dead/dying? (pg. 9)
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| charlie lloyd |
havent been through the whole thread, but looked at a few posts. i think the difference is that people tend to use popularity contests like the top 100 poll and how much music is being played on certain music channels as a measure of how strong a genre is or which one is better.
there does seem to be alot of people into music that unfortunately have a blinkered view on musical tastes and like many things in life, refuse to accept other peoples views.
at the current time the "buzz-word" is electro, last year it was funky house and so on.
what alot of people dont understand is that the music industry is manipulated by major labels who look at the popular sound and then capture it and produce comercial acts in order to get a bite of the cherry and make as much money as possible.
with trance, there seems to be alot of people who have an instant dislike to anything that happens in the scene or anything new.
it may be cool to like electro or psy-trance etc but like it or not there are an awfull lot of people around the world who do like uplifting trance. (by that i mean the likes of armin, pvd, tyas, above and beyond etc)
unfortunately it seems that people who are into the more minority genres like psy-trance/goa tend to dislike any other form of edm which is sad.
ive felt that over the last 6 or 7 years the whole of dancemusic not trance, has been in decline because nobody seems to want to just have fun anymore. its all about looking cool and too much like the RnB/Rap scene where image is more important than listening to music.
i would hazard a guess than a large majority of this forum have never been to a nightclub before and are under the age of 16 and so havent experienced what clubbing and dancemusic was originally about. many too probably listen to certain DJs sets online compared to listening in a club/arena therefore not picking up on how the set sounded in an arena.
there seems to be a few select people especially who for example post on the cd reviews forum slating almost anything thats popular with lines like "pointless" "awfull". well to be honest thats pointless in itself. it offers nothing constructive and is just a form of simple ignorance.
the good thing that dancemusic had particularly if you DJ was the hunt for new tunes. you had a particular sound or form of a genre you liked and you picked and serched for records of that type. but some people seem to talk and bitch about records like theyre the only records in existance.
just because theres a dj playing trance, doesnt mean he or she has sold out to the kids and in all honesty some of the people on here who go on and on at people who like certain djs or records that are actually popular are infact bigger "fanboys" of their own genre and less knowlegable of the EDM scene (since that word seems to be a pretty poor insult on this forum).:toocool:
dance music in general needs to lose the arrogance and jelousy and blind ignorance to any other genre and learn to have fun again and recapture the originality it had say ten years ago.
personally as far as i see trance, there is too many people looking for records that have no soul and tend to be almost repetitive techno. i prefer trance that puts the hairs on the back of your kneck, something with a bit of power and is uplifting but not all records are like that and im not going to start rubbishing every record that comes out thats popular but i dont like, i just wont buy it. simple. |
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| charlie lloyd |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nayil
almost is..... fcukin electro killed it......super cheese killed it.
Have yal listened to shiloh lately...... WTF.. electro got him.
electro got ferry
subsky
pvd
micah
elusive
do they think electro is cool ? |
maybe in a way this is a good thing, with djs who are usually associated with being the top trance djs changing style then maybe it opens up an opportunity for the next/yonger generation of djs and producers to get more exposure?
i was worried that in 10years time we will still have to put up with oakenfold living off his GOA mix and putting on another god-awful performance before a 50yearold PVD turns up with some new contraption. infact i thought we would end up with john kelly turning up on a zimmoframe before long:) |
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| Insomnia`SF |
| what does this even mean, "trance is dead"...i mean, if one producer is still producing, it's still being played at parties, and people are still listening to it at home, doesn't that mean it's alive? Is it only alive if there are 10 new tracks produced a week and it's played at 7% of clubs worldwide? or is it 15 new tracks and 9%? this whole debate is idiotic. |
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| dj_kane |
| quote: | Originally posted by starboy
My thoughts exactly.. |
this guy knows the genre, behind the pretty avatar there lies a trancer. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by charlie lloyd
I would hazard a guess than a large majority of this forum have never been to a nightclub before and are under the age of 16 and so havent experienced what clubbing and dancemusic was originally about. many too probably listen to certain DJs sets online compared to listening in a club/arena therefore not picking up on how the set sounded in an arena.
there seems to be a few select people especially who for example post on the cd reviews forum slating almost anything thats popular with lines like "pointless" "awfull". well to be honest thats pointless in itself. it offers nothing constructive and is just a form of simple ignorance.
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All those words and not one of them correct. |
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| charlie lloyd |
| quote: | Originally posted by Insomnia`SF
what does this even mean, "trance is dead"...i mean, if one producer is still producing, it's still being played at parties, and people are still listening to it at home, doesn't that mean it's alive? Is it only alive if there are 10 new tracks produced a week and it's played at 7% of clubs worldwide? or is it 15 new tracks and 9%? this whole debate is idiotic. |
i think you made a great point there. i think its because a few people with a "loud voice" on a forum or in the media decide that a certain genre is now cool and fresh but another is dead then it should be took as gospel.
its like the whole fashion world with clothes being "in" one day and "out" the next.
not everyone wants to listen to electro or house, even if it is supposed to be the "in-thing" and popular right now and alot of people still like trance regardless of if its not cool to do so.
like i said earlier, everyone seems quick to drack this same topic up every autum/winter and sugest trance is dead but its been brought up every year now since 1999 and trance is still popular and alive no matter what people "in the know" say |
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| charlie lloyd |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
All those words and not one of them correct. |
do you personally know every person on this site and can prove me wrong? didnt think so.
anyway, just because you dont argree with my views, it doesnt mean you have to post a ignorant comment like that. |
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| starboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
All those words and not one of them correct. |
rofls.. who are you to say what's "correct"... lol trance critic. |
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| charlie lloyd |
| quote: | Originally posted by starboy
rofls.. who are you to say what's "correct"... lol trance critic. |
to be honest i think that poster proved alot of my point with that one arrogant sentence:haha: |
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| iammesol |
| these threads are madd old. please just be quiet. |
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| Ozoned12 |
| Trance is hybernating for the winter. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by charlie lloyd
do you personally know every person on this site and can prove me wrong? didnt think so.
anyway, just because you dont argree with my views, it doesnt mean you have to post a ignorant comment like that. |
Do you know everyone? Quite clearly not. And yet you're content to generalise whole groups of people into one negative description because they disagree with you.
Do I personally know everyone on TA? No, but neither do you. The difference between you and me is I've been here much longer and made many more posts. If either of us is going to have an accurate idea of what people are like here, it's more likely to be me.
Oh, and as far as my "ignorance" goes, you can find out how old everyone is by looking in their profiles. Or even just glancing at the birthdays list. You'll find the average TA age is the mid-20s, and that's no different to the people you've tried to lump into a generalisation. Unless you want to claim that 60,000 people are lying about their birthdays and their experiences of clubbing they frequently recount, of course.
You're as hypocritical as you are ing thick. |
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