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Miller wants to tear down Gardiner (pg. 5)
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| dj_souvlaki |
| maybe we should just ban traffic so i we don't have to worry about rebuilding the gardiner. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by lol internet
they should rebuild it, and charge a fare for use. so it encourages commuting as well.
before people start going nuts and saying why should we have to pay for it, well its because the city has to pay for the gardiner, not the federal government. this way, after its been rebuilt, the tolls can go to doing the onward repairs/maintenance for it, and theyre should be cash to be spent on something else instead of 40 years later, lets spend another billion dollars to rebuild it. |
aren't highways provincial jurisdiction? |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
aren't highways provincial jurisdiction? |
Yep. Though in Canadian politics, jurisdiction is more or less a blur... |
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| lol internet |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
aren't highways provincial jurisdiction? |
could of sworn highways were federal.
only the gardiner was paid by toronto. let me try to look for a source on that.
edit: DVP is paid by toronto as well.
source: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/toronto/archive/2008/02/21/give-gardiner-dvp-to-the-province-mayor-s-panel.aspx
but the rest of the highways were provincial, not federal. my bad. so you were somewhat right. |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by lol internet
could of sworn highways were federal.
only the gardiner was paid by toronto. let me try to look for a source on that.
edit: DVP is paid by toronto as well.
source: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/...or-s-panel.aspx
but the rest of the highways were provincial, not federal. my bad. so you were somewhat right. |
Technically, British North America Act divides spheres of responsibility among the 3 major govts (actually, just federal and provincial. Municipal gets like 1 half para) and highways, along with health care, education are suppose to be provincial jurisdiction. |
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| mute79 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Question,
Do you drive?
Next question, if you drive do you use the gardiner often? |
i drive, but not for business.. i live downtown and walk to work, so my driving amounts to 10k a year.. i'm curious to see where you take this
could someone explain to me what is gardiner's purpose? |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
Technically, British North America Act divides spheres of responsibility among the 3 major govts (actually, just federal and provincial. Municipal gets like 1 half para) and highways, along with health care, education are suppose to be provincial jurisdiction. |
and since cities are the creation of the province and under 100% of their jurisdiction, that highway is by extent provincial jurisdiction even if it was built by Toronto.
If Toronto had a major financial crisis or other, the province can step in and take over the city. |
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| smuncky |
| quote: | Originally posted by mute79
could someone explain to me what is gardiner's purpose? |
i don't really know what you mean by that question.
it's purpose is to carry cars.
originally it was supposed to go through scarborough and reach the 401. however, the leslie st extension was the only thing that was built and then eventually torn down. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by mute79
could someone explain to me what is gardiner's purpose? |
like any city highways on earth, reduce street congestion and focus them on one stretch of road. |
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| DJOS2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by lol internet
could of sworn highways were federal.
only the gardiner was paid by toronto. let me try to look for a source on that.
edit: DVP is paid by toronto as well.
source: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/...or-s-panel.aspx
but the rest of the highways were provincial, not federal. my bad. so you were somewhat right. |
In Ontario, the Provincial Government owns and operated the 400 series highways (except 407 which the sold to a Spanish company). They also own and manage all provincially designnated highways (crown head routes throughout the province).
Any other roads, highways, expressways, etc are owned and operated by the local municipality. The city of Toronto owns the Gardiner, DVP and Allen Expressway and is therefore responsible for all maintenance and can charge tolls, etc if they choose.
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| DJOS2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by lol internet
could of sworn highways were federal.
only the gardiner was paid by toronto. let me try to look for a source on that.
edit: DVP is paid by toronto as well.
source: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/...or-s-panel.aspx
but the rest of the highways were provincial, not federal. my bad. so you were somewhat right. |
In Ontario, the Provincial Government owns and operates the 400 series highways (except 407 which they sold to a Spanish company). They also own and manage all provincially designnated highways (crown head routes throughout the province).
Any other roads, highways, expressways, etc are owned and operated by the local municipality. The city of Toronto owns the Gardiner, DVP and Allen Expressway and is therefore responsible for all maintenance and can charge tolls, etc if they choose.
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| mute79 |
| quote: | Originally posted by smuncky
i don't really know what you mean by that question.
it's purpose is to carry cars.
originally it was supposed to go through scarborough and reach the 401. however, the leslie st extension was the only thing that was built and then eventually torn down. |
this is my point.. gardiner is obsolete and serves no purpose now
TEAR IT DOWN! |
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