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Miller wants to tear down Gardiner (pg. 6)
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| Yohan |
So... What would handle the flow of Gardiner then?
Been a while since I played SimCity but the cars have to go somewhere... |
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| mute79 |
| You change people's habits. Get out of your car and use public transport. It's there for a reason.. |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by mute79
use public transport |
Ah yes. The inefficient TTC.
Now there's been enough rant about TTC before but I personally wouldn't trust TTC to get me to work in time, esp if I don't live on the subway line |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by mute79
You change people's habits. Get out of your car and use public transport. It's there for a reason.. |
Unfortunately the rich white yuppies here think that public transportation is for poor people and it's somehow detrimental to their ego's to make use of it. |
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| mute79 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
Ah yes. The inefficient TTC.
Now there's been enough rant about TTC before but I personally wouldn't trust TTC to get me to work in time, esp if I don't live on the subway line |
That's because you're a slave to conservative suburban ideology, and have succumbed to their propaganda. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the TTC, or GO train, or any other piece of public transit.
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| me@t k@tie |
| quote: | Originally posted by mute79
You change people's habits. Get out of your car and use public transport. It's there for a reason.. |
STUPID. You can't just tear down a highway and expect people to readily substitute driving with public transit. It's not substituting apple juice for orange juice. I think if the TTC suddenly had to transport all the people who use the Gardiner daily, the service would crumble. It'd be an absolute nightmare. Not to mention certain public transit (GO) actually uses the Gardiner for its service. And lastly, wtf do you think all the trucks that deliver goods to the city will have to do? Use King St.? |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by mute79
That's because you're a slave to conservative suburban ideology, and have succumbed to their propaganda. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the TTC, or GO train, or any other piece of public transit.
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Not true.
I take the bus to work. (though I usually get a drive back home because freaking bus route doesn't continue past 7pm)
I take Greyhound mostly whenenver I go to Toronto.
Now I haven't lived in Toronto regularly for 7 yrs, but exactly what improvements TTC made? Specially for people who live in East Scarborough or West Etobicoke? Would you spend like 2 hrs trying to get to downtown? |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by mute79
could someone explain to me what is gardiner's purpose? |
other than making the city look horrible. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by mute79
You change people's habits. Get out of your car and use public transport. It's there for a reason.. |
For someone like myself....public transportation is absolutely useless. I need my vehicle for my job so I have no other choice...unless the TTC will take me throughout the GTA, Milton, Georgetown, Guelph, Oakville, Barrie, Newmarket, Orangeville, etc, etc, etc....and will do it on a minutes notice. If the TTC had a driver at my becon call then I would use it. |
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| mute79 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
For someone like myself....public transportation is absolutely useless. I need my vehicle for my job so I have no other choice...unless the TTC will take me throughout the GTA, Milton, Georgetown, Guelph, Oakville, Barrie, Newmarket, Orangeville, etc, etc, etc....and will do it on a minutes notice. If the TTC had a driver at my becon call then I would use it. |
Here's a novel idea. Move to the city!
This is precisely the problem. See, gardiner is a byproduct of '60s (sub)urban planning in north america, which dictated that people work in the city and live in suburbs. This is has proven to be catastrophical in creating cohesive urban environments. So, gardiner is just a remnant of an obsolete belief, and no longer serves a purpose!
Why should the city have to pay $10m/annually, to maintain a failed philosophy? Or, why should I, by default, have to continue to inhale fumes of those driving into the city who refuse to use public transit?
And to answer your question, Go Train will take you to all those you towns specified in less than an hour. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by mute79
Here's a novel idea. Move to the city!
This is precisely the problem. See, gardiner is a byproduct of '60s (sub)urban planning in north america, which dictated that people work in the city and live in suburbs. This is has proven to be catastrophical in creating cohesive urban environments. So, gardiner is just a remnant of an obsolete belief, and no longer serves a purpose!
Why should the city have to pay $10m/annually, to maintain a failed philosophy? Or, why should I, by default, have to continue to inhale fumes of those driving into the city who refuse to use public transit?
And to answer your question, Go Train will take you to all those you towns specified in less than an hour. |
I could live at my office and it still would make no difference to the fact that I would need to have my vehicle for my job at a moments notice. I'm sorry...but if you were paying my bill I don't think you would want to pay the $110.00 an hour for me to sit on a bus. |
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| mute79 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I could live at my office and it still would make no difference to the fact that I would need to have my vehicle for my job at a moments notice. I'm sorry...but if you were paying my bill I don't think you would want to pay the $110.00 an hour for me to sit on a bus. |
My post wasn't directed at you specifically, but at 99% of other commuters who live in suburbs, work in the city and refuse to utilize public transit. |
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