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DJ is NO SKILL ??? (pg. 5)
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| kush paintings |
| This is why I am all for the Ableton movement. With so many djs now being excellent producers, there could be the same live element to a DJ show as a rock/classical concert. In fact, I would argue that in the near future, it won't even be an arguement: the best djs will be the most talented musicians in the world, as they will be able to produce at a world class level (and show those skills live), while having truly spontaneous shows all the while having the structure and flow that isn't there for the vast majority of concerts for other genres. |
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| Polt |
| I think DJing does require skill - just not in the way you are thinking about it. A musician tones his skill to play the music. A DJ brings the music to the people and the mixing, crowd interaction, song selection and personality are skills they use to do so. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rainborn
Lol, you make it sound alot easier than it really is. One can work and work and polish their skills forever and ever, and with new technology all the time, you gotta keep up to date and learn all the new stuff.
The most basic stuff is what's being exercised in a club by a DJ though.
I haven't grasped the whole liveact concept fully, like the stuff that BT does, but it's probably alot harder than DJing. |
no need to even mention new technology, with just a pair of technics and a worn down radioshack mixer you'd still have an infinite amount of things to do. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
Traktor and Ableton do not turn mixer knobs for you. |
and way more importantly, they don't select the appropriate track for you. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by jåcë
Pete Tong doesn't need to mix well. He is probably the most influential person in EDM of all time. |
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people on this forum never cease to amuse me |
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| Beethoven |
| quote: | Originally posted by SMC
Bull thread. Something easy can be good and something hard can be bad. I can make a lovely sandwich in 2 minutes, and i can make an advanced dish in 2 hours that tastes like . There is no direct relation between (level of) skill or effort needed and how the result is interpreted.
Then DJing and making music are two different things. There is a demand for guys who play records in a continous mix because ppl like it. A pianist with 30 years of training who can play blindfolded will not satisfy the needs of those ppl. In that context he sucks, but that does of course not mean that being good at playing piano is , it's just a different thing. |
This thread is GOLD. I JUST WANT to let you guys know that DJing doesnt really need a skill so much. of course there are a lot of skill, but not that much.
i really appreciate ur idea. something easy can be good and something hard can be bad. nice.
I know it since the beginning, even DJ is an easy stuff compared playing other musical instruments, but DJ has higher demand and satisfy more people. DJ is like a leader. They use their creativity to create song, to control the crowd feeling, they even create something new. Many musician can only play their instrument to play others people creation. Most musician is trapped by the timeline. They hardly can step forward. DJ is always looking for something new and special. This makes a lot different. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| Piano > Decks |
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| Xenocreator_PG_ |
Disk Jockeys are a major part of society and add to the foundations of human stupidity. As soon as one person said that mixing a song into another is "talented", the IQs of the world decreased dramatically. People started flocking to see Disk Jockeys like Tiesto. To say that a Disk Jockey is a "musician" is the biggest insult to any talented producer. Just because a Disk jockeys plays music does not make them a "musician". That's like saying I am a musician because I pressed the 'play' button on my DVD player. I also like to listen to music & look through music catalogues with my l33t disk jockey skillzorz!!11
Being a Disk Jockey is like being a goat farmer. The little goat will grow up by itself in a paddock & eat grass all day. After the goat has been eating grass for a month the farmer will go outside with a bottle & milk the goats titty for 2 minutes, drink the milk & then say "Look at me, I'm a astronaut!". The goat farmer would then get naked & climb a tree & yell to the sky to simulate being NASA Mission control centre.
Basically, A real astronaut went to University for 7 years and the naked goat farmer milked a goats titty for 2 minutes. The goat did enjoy the experience, but will not fork out 25 bucks for the CD. |
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| paulandrews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beethoven
Most musician is trapped by the timeline. They hardly can step forward. DJ is always looking for something new and special. This makes a lot different. |
This is utter bull, it´s the other way round. Please stop posting before you hurt yourself. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beethoven
This thread is GOLD. I JUST WANT to let you guys know that DJing doesnt really need a skill so much. of course there are a lot of skill, but not that much. |
since you're so good at teaching things you know nothing about, i rather you teach me about cold fusion. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
Piano > Decks |
piano = linear learning curve: read > implement > practice > repeat
decks = diy learning: figure out the basics > practice > mess about > discover a new trick > practice > mess about > discover a new trick > repeat
which leads me to declare it's likely that it takes more to master the turntables, than it does the piano.
p.s. (not to you alpha, but in general) beatmatching is to turntables what playing do-re-mi-fa-sol-la-ti-do is to piano. |
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| GrimReaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beethoven
Most musician is trapped by the timeline. They hardly can step forward. |
Not really, there's no certain way or timeline a musician should follow, unless wanting to get lost in the generic masses where the most important thing is to be like everyone else, to sell more instead of actually making a difference and trying something else. Talented musicians try new things all the time, which can not be said in most DJs nowadays..
| quote: | | DJ is always looking for something new and special. This makes a lot different. |
As i hinted above, most DJs nowadays aren't really looking something new and special, by themselves anyway.. quite the opposite really. They are merely being copycats and will do just what the others are doing. What new and special is there if you as a DJ are playing exactly the same tracks than 99% of other DJs of your style out there? For God's sake, a DJ should put a little more effort in his sets than try to be cool by just playing all the most hyped tracks and nothing else. Yet only a few DJs really go beyond that, and mostly (and sadly) they aren't the big names we still OMG so much about but the lesser known hopefully rising DJs. |
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