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'Kramer's' Racial Tirade (pg. 13)
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancechaos
im a black man and im staying out of this one, just wanted to say wazzup!!!
peace people! |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancechaos
im a black man and im staying out of this one, just wanted to say wazzup!!!
peace people! |
I LOL'd :stongue: |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stilez
I too usually agree with alot you have to say, and you bring up some valid points. I've actually read this entire thread, and although I don't agree with everyone's point of view, it is their opinion. Just like it's your right to voice yours over 'Double Standards'.
However, that statement right there made you lose all credibility Jay. Stick to politics, as History (Canadian History at that) is obviously not your Major. |
Canada had slaves?
News to me! care to explain? |
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| Flec |
jay you must be retarded
its called google, stop wasting our time |
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| Stilez |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Canada had slaves?
News to me! care to explain? |
By the same measure of judgment that you hold over other's and their 'Double Standards', you are equally as guilty... by being ignorant and uninformed about Slavery in Canada. It's sad to see how uneducated the majority of Canadians, such as yourself Jay, are concerning this issue. It's time to get off the unjustifiable perennial Canadian Moral HIGH-Horse JAY.
Here's a gift.
It's a good read.!!! CLICK HERE !! |
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| Abercrombie |
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| She_Fitz |
I guess there is some truth to the old adage.....
Treat others as you yourself wish to be treated.
Too bad not enough people practice it.
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| DarkAngel |
*credit goes to Ygrene of the CORe for this chop. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stilez
By the same measure of judgment that you hold over other's and their 'Double Standards', you are equally as guilty... by being ignorant and uninformed about Slavery in Canada. It's sad to see how uneducated the majority of Canadians, such as yourself Jay, are concerning this issue. It's time to get off the unjustifiable perennial Canadian Moral HIGH-Horse JAY.
Here's a gift.
It's a good read.!!! CLICK HERE !! |
hrmm that link didnt work for me
but heres a brief overview:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Canada |
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| Mr Rogers |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
chris rock in good taste? Clearly we are not talking about the chris rock im thinking of.
Stand any white guy up there and have him tell the EXACT same jokes as rock and youd get the same reaction from this crowd.
And i dont care if the cracker comments were just the guy's reaction. Its just as right or wrong as the n*gger comments.
Until double standards like this arent tolerated, bad vibes are just going to continue when it comes to race issues. |
first of all, there is no double standard because us "white people" weren't killed for being white. We were not confined to the back of the bus. It goes a lot deeper than just being a double standard. Sorry to say but i think we owe a lot of respect for the shamefull things that were done in the past. And for kramer to bring up the is just wrong. What did the black guy say, "Cracker"?? So what, its a snack. Kramer crossed the line so far on this one. |
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| Kytracid |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancechaos
im a black man and im staying out of this one, just wanted to say wazzup!!!
peace people! |
Best post in this thread! I'd give you props ma nigga, but some people round here would probably think I was being racist.
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Canada had slaves?
News to me! care to explain? |
The first slave transported directly from Africa to Canada was a child brought to Quebec in 1628 by the English invader David Kirke, and sold to a local resident on Kirke's departure in 1629. The child was baptized in May 1633 as Olivier Le Jeune, and died in 1654 while still a young man. Between 1628 and the British Conquest in 1759, 1132 slaves of African origin were brought to New France. Governor Denonville sought permission to establish a trade in African slaves in 1688, but royal permission was denied and so there was never any direct importation from Africa.
Most of the Africans came from the British colonies in North America or from the French West Indies. About 60 percent of the imported slaves were male and 40 percent female, and almost all of them were located in urban centers as domestic servants. Usually they were owned singly or in very small numbers, and most served the same family throughout their lives.
Black slaves lived in the British regions of Canada in the 17th and 18th centuries — 104 were listed in a 1767 census of Nova Scotia — but their numbers were small until the Loyalist influx after 1783. As white Loyalists fled the new American Republic, they took with them about 2000 black slaves: 1200 to the Maritimes (Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island), 300 to Lower Canada (Quebec), and 500 to Upper Canada (Ontario). As in New France, Loyalist slaves were held in small numbers and were employed as domestic servants, farm hands, and skilled artisans.
The system of gang labor, and its consequent institutions of control and brutality, did not develop in Canada. Because they did not appear to pose a threat to their masters, slaves were permitted to learn to read and write, Christian conversion was encouraged, and their marriages were recognized by law. In 1793 Upper Canada became the first territory in the British Empire to legislate the gradual abolition of slavery.
By 1800 the other provinces of British North America had effectively limited slavery through court decisions requiring the strictest proof of ownership, which was rarely available. Slavery remained legal, however, until the British Parliament emancipated slaves throughout the empire effective August 1, 1834.
source : http://www.africanaonline.com/slavery_canada.htm
You must be mad if you actually believe that Canada at some point didn't have white men who kept slaves. They were European settlers for gods sake. The same breed of men who went to the US. What makes you think they would be that different from their American counterparts ? Both sets of people came to a land that didn't belong to them and colonized it. They did this by nearly exterminating the native people, marginalizing their role in society and decimating their culture because it didn't fit in with the white mans notion of progress.
Calling it 'manifest destiny', they promptly built a nation that reaped the benefits of free labor, natural resources and an uneven balance of power. The only difference between Canada and the US was that the Americans were a more successful in what they did. That's it.
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
I dont get offended when black people make fun of white people. I get offended that they can do it and i cant. But clearly when they make fun of white and black people its pretty damned funny.
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Are you kidding me ? Have you watched TV or been to the movies in the last 10 years ? Black people are constantly being made fun off (ridiculed, humiliated). It happens in subtle ways, like always depicting fat black women as being the loud, obnoxious one's. Or more directly when young black men are shown as crackdealers who spawn illegitamate childern and shoot up innocent people cause they're all gangstas.
The racial sterotyping of black people has been going on for decades (Hollywood, Media, Radio, Cartoons). Bet you don't complain about that do you ? But one black guy gets up and points out something funny about a white man -- and suddenly you have a problem with it.
Also. Nobody says you can't make fun of black people. It's just strange that your idea of fun is using the racial slur against them.
And since you keep mentioning Chris Rock. I have to ask - How much of Chris Rock's show you have actually seen ? Because 90% of it is directed towards BLACK people. He makes fun of NIGGAZ a lot more then he does white people. His routine is not about hatred, never has been. But yea, he does take a few shots at white people too...after 300 years of slavery, I think his people are entitled to take a few shots. And yes...I know you personally didn't do any of these things to them...and there aren't any slaves around anymore. But there are people still alive who remember what it means to be a second class citizen. It's not that long ago that colored people were treated like scum...and sorry to say it, but the people who did that to them, looked a lot like you, jayx1. The next time you hear the word 'cracker' and feel that sharp stab of pain in your chest because you have feel you've been racially attacked, think about it this way...it's your ancestors karma comming back to bite you in that ass. Personally, I'd take a 'cracker' comment in stride...there are people who have/who are suffering a lot more humiliation then being called a snack.
PS. You mentioned somewhere in this thread that the Black Panthers & Nation of Islam are racists. Sure, they were. They were a para military organization that stood for black pride. But if they were racist...it was because so were the more powerful group of people they stood against them : The FBI, CIA, Police, US Government...
Chris Rock
"Who's more racist, black people or white people? Black people. You know why? Cause we hate black people too! Everything white people don't like about black people, black people really don't like about black people. There's some going on with black people right now. It's like a civil war going on with black people. And there's two sides: there's black people, and there's niggas. And niggas have got to go. "
"Books are like kryptonite to those NIGGAZ"
Every time black people want to have a good time, ignorant ass niggas it up. You can't do ! Can't do without ignorant ass niggas ing it up. Can't do nothing. Can't keep a disco open more than three weeks. Grand opening? Grand closing!
I love black people, but I hate niggas. I am tired of niggas.
Niggas want credit for something they're supposed to do... A nigga would say some like, "I take care of my kids." You're supposed to, you dumb mother******!
"I ain't never been to jail." What do you want, a cookie? You're not supposed to go to jail, you low expectation-havin' mother******!
Niggas is singing welfare carols! "On the first day of welfare my true love gave to me!" "I wish you a merry welfare and a happy food stamp!"
The politicians are trying to get rid of welfare. Every time you see a welfare story on the news, you always see black people. Hey! Black people don't give a about welfare. But niggas are shaking in their boots: "They gonna take our ."
A black man with two jobs hates a nigga on welfare. "Nigga, get a job. I got two, you can't get one?"
A black woman that got two kids, going to work everyday, busting her ass, hates a bitch with 9 kids on welfare. BITCH, STOP IN'! STOP IN'! STOP IT! PUT THE DICK DOWN! PUT IT DOWN AND GET A JOB!
But you know the worst thing about niggas, the worst thing about niggas?! Niggas love to not know. Nothin' make a nigga happier than not knowing the answer to your question. Just ask a nigga a question, any nigga. "Hey, nigga, what's the capital of Zaire?" Ha-ha! I don't know that ! I'm keepin' it real! Niggas LOVE to keep it real. Real DUMB.
Had to Quote these two...not only cause they are right. But also cause them made me LOL.
| quote: | Originally posted by Flec
jay you must be retarded
its called google, stop wasting our time |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stilez
However, that statement right there made you lose all credibility Jay. Stick to politics, as History (Canadian History at that) is obviously not your Major. |
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