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I wonder if Saddam brought KY Jelly with him (pg. 12)
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DOOMBOT
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Originally posted by Vlad
There is no such thing as personal interests when youre running a country, whose personal interests are they helping?

lol
DJ Eco
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Originally posted by tiesto14
Yes and Hitler kept Germany in order also, we should of left him be.
:rolleyes:



haha no!!!! as you could see, once hitler was ousted, there was a relative level of normalcy brought back to the country.... the ethnic cleansing and murders he brought into the country was far from keeping Germany in order.... you guys really need to go to school or read books, your views on things are quite frightening ("lol-ing" at the fact that "Iraqis should have moved if they knew American forces were going in, oh yeah, you want to bring Germany into it? the manic Nazi-supporting Germans were probably saying the same thing about the Jews... "they knew the Nazis were going to get them, why didn't they just move)... you fools
trunks1022
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Originally posted by Vlad
There is no such thing as personal interests when youre running a country, whose personal interests are they helping?


oh man that is naive...
Vlad
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Originally posted by trunks1022
oh man that is naive...



no seriously, who are they helping... id like to know...
DJ Eco
theres something called lobbyists... theres also a few dollars here and there given to their presidential campaign from a few people here and there... theres also whatever board of trustee they may be part of in a large corporation, apart from being in the government... just take a look at cheney and where his corporation ended up.... pretty sweet deal they got, in iraq.... read up!
trunks1022
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Originally posted by Vlad
no seriously, who are they helping... id like to know...


you don't think that bush 43 let saddam's feud with bush 41 affect his personal actions during his presidency?

in the name of the united states of america, he defended his father's honor by diverting troops from where we needed it most (afghanistan) to a place where terrorism was not a hotbed until saddam was forcibly removed. the war was predicated on false information and done to satisfy a personal vendetta. seriously, it's helping personal interests.
Vlad
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Originally posted by DJ Eco
theres something called lobbyists... theres also a few dollars here and there given to their presidential campaign from a few people here and there... theres also whatever board of trustee they may be part of in a large corporation, apart from being in the government... just take a look at cheney and where his corporation ended up.... pretty sweet deal they got, in iraq.... read up!



Both sides have lobbyists and money getting thrown around.

Concerns have been raised regarding the possible conflict of interest resulting from Cheney's deferred compensation and stock options from Halliburton. However, before entering office in 2001, Cheney bought an insurance policy that guaranteed a fixed amount of deferred payments from Halliburton each year for five years so that the payments would not depend on the company's fortunes.[4] He is legally bound by an agreement he signed which turns over power of attorney to a trust administrator to sell the options at some future time and to give the after-tax profits to three charities. The agreement specifies that 40% will go to the University of Wyoming (in Cheney's home state), 40% will go to George Washington University's medical faculty to be used for tax-exempt charitable purposes, and 20% will go to Capital Partners for Education. The agreement states that it is "irrevocable and may not be terminated, waived or amended," preventing Cheney from taking back the options at a later date.
Vlad
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Originally posted by trunks1022
you don't think that bush 43 let saddam's feud with bush 41 affect his personal actions during his presidency?

in the name of the united states of america, he defended his father's honor by diverting troops from where we needed it most (afghanistan) to a place where terrorism was not a hotbed until saddam was forcibly removed. the war was predicated on false information and done to satisfy a personal vendetta. seriously, it's helping personal interests.



If you read back, youll see that I dont agree with the way the war is being dealt with.
trunks1022
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Originally posted by Vlad
If you read back, youll see that I dont agree with the way the war is being dealt with.


and i'm not disputing that. i'm disputing that you said there is no such thing as personal interests when you run a country. read back.
DJ Eco
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Originally posted by Vlad
Both sides have lobbyists and money getting thrown around.



yeah but both sides arent starting bogus wars

MichaelBoogerd!
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Originally posted by Vlad
Probably not since the 80s has there been something significant, most of the oil comes from Saudi Arabia if Im correct.


Only because when he sees a Sheikh, Bush bends over.
sandstorm03
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Originally posted by Vlad
Probably not since the 80s has there been something significant, most of the oil comes from Saudi Arabia if Im correct.










You're wrong
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