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| jonSun |
| quote: | Originally posted by digitul punk
Just because I agree/disagree with someone doesn't mean I'm their friend or their enemy. |
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When people disagree with the USA invading & occupying every country in the middle east the get called Terrorist Lovers. |
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| ResonantDrag |
| quote: | Originally posted by digitul punk
Ahhh, shielding yourself from a very real problem is no way to deal with it. As far as work goes, you've got the rationality stay away from a certain page and/or post... I think you could take care of that can't you? :)
But in any case, I'm done for today. So long. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonSun
+1
When people disagree with the USA invading & occupying every country in the middle east the get called Terrorist Lovers. |
ya they call us terrorists lovers because they cant come with anything else.just like how Bush says it: "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists" .:rolleyes: |
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| NeoPhono |
If you feel the only way to prove your point or make a statement is by posting graphic pictures of the dead, it's not a point or statement worth making. Freedom to speak your mind is one thing, but the "freedom" to post images of the dead, which do nothing but add emotional charge, is a different matter.
The internet is a big place. I'm sure if you do feel the only way to make your point is by posting scenes of graphic death and violence you'll find a forum of others who will sympathize. Luckily, it's not here. |
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| M.Johan |
| quote: | Originally posted by XaNaX
There is no argument here. You can check every post I've made in this forum and never once have I posted some propaganda photo or just a link to some propaganda web site like certain people who I won't bother to name do on a regular basis.
Posting photos showing dead civilians from one side of a war without showing photos of the civilian deaths caused by the other side's terrorist rocket attacks is propaganda. Its trying to make it look like only Israel is killing innocents when you know damn well the other side is doing the same thing. Actually they are doing worse, because they launch their rocket attacks from civilian population centers attempting to use them as a shield, knowing that Israel will strike back. And then when civilians are killed in the crossfire the terrorists take pictures of it and use it in their propaganda. Its probably about the most cowardly act I can think of, hiding behind innocent civilians.
Propaganda photos like that don't promote the truth you are talking about, they promote a distorted, one sided view of a situation. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
Quite amused.
1. Pictures prove nothing. I can post pictures all day of dead Israeli children, or people jumping out of the towers on 9/11. |
DON'T IGNORE THESE FACTS
Olmert 'planned Lebanon war before soldiers' kidnap'
months in advance [3 months]
http://news.independent.co.uk/world...icle2341366.ece
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/St...1844021,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/St...2029731,00.html
i know that's unaccptable to post these images, sorry ,but
My only execuse.
That there are many western medias (non-biased) don't focuss on the realities of the M.Eastern accidents and events.
| quote: | | 2. If you can't counter argue by yourself, you shouldn't be here. I'm not going to chase all your links. I don't have the time. You can argue with the source somewhere inside of your piece. Posting links is not an argument. |
U know very well the supporting of terroristic groups by USA
These links and articles which were posted about this are from official US medias ,wikipedia and non aligned press networks........
Ignoring
is evastion and unsagacious. |
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| digitul punk |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
If you feel the only way to prove your point or make a statement is by posting graphic pictures of the dead, it's not a point or statement worth making. Freedom to speak your mind is one thing, but the "freedom" to post images of the dead, which do nothing but add emotional charge, is a different matter.
The internet is a big place. I'm sure if you do feel the only way to make your point is by posting scenes of graphic death and violence you'll find a forum of others who will sympathize. Luckily, it's not here. |
The point I was merely trying to make is that you are no one to decide what gets posted here and what doesn't and neither should any of the members be, except for the moderators. So your argument makes no sense.
If you hear about people dying, expect to see pictures of it because that's just the reality of it. You still have the right to not click on the link or the picture, so rely on your personal judgment for a change.
And hey if that emotional charge is going to save this planet then I think we should be mature enough to handle a couple of gruesome images. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by digitul punk
The point I was merely trying to make is that you are no one to decide what gets posted here and what doesn't and neither should any of the members be, except for the moderators. So your argument makes no sense.
If you hear about people dying, expect to see pictures of it because that's just the reality of it. You still have the right to not click on the link or the picture, so rely on your personal judgment for a change.
And hey if that emotional charge is going to save this planet then I think we should be mature enough to handle a couple of gruesome images. |
You must hate organized and rational debate.
Your friend couldn't answer with his own arguments, so he resorted to war pictures which have absolutely no context whatsoever, but to circle right around with the circular arguments that Israel is evil evil evil.
How can you debate if the other guy just posts a list of pictures and links and makes no argumentative point himself but to make a few obscure statements? |
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| M.Johan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
You must hate organized and rational debate.
Your friend couldn't answer with his own arguments, so he resorted to war pictures which have absolutely no context whatsoever, but to circle right around with the circular arguments that Israel is evil evil evil.
How can you debate if the other guy just posts a list of pictures and links and makes no argumentative point himself but to make a few obscure statements? |
Arguments?!!
After his war crimes and failure..........
The Israeli PM Olmert's (confessing)statement to the commission investigating the war is
"The war's planned in March 2006"
(3 months) before soliders're kidnapped.
The main component of the internal scene, regional and international current :
1.Inside Israel : Olmert's lowest popularity (after the war), and the growing popularity of the Likud.
2.In the region : His great war crimes against Lebanon(planned in March 2006),the great depression and discrimination practices against palastenines.
the supporting of terroristic groups (by the American intelligence) to disclose the iranian nuclear program.
The Sources:
U.S. Support for Terrorism in Iran
Anothers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Mujahedin_of_Iran
The Guardian
USA Today News
3.In the international field :Russian and Chineese supporting to Iran,the low popularity of Bush (his beloved brother) by 39% and the Republicans, political confrontation between the Republicans and Democrats,the rise in oil prices(during the invastion of Lebanone)
In General The worest image of USA & Israel (since 1948)
in front the whole world.
and ofcourse in the M.East
The Olmert's gov has been willing to engage in peace talks with the Arab parties,especially after the defeat of the Israeli forces at the hands of Lebanese Hezbollah,but has not been able to take progress in negotiating the draft because of the refusal of the American administration which is controlled by the Zionism Lobby based on the position of the neoconservatives in support of the orientations within the Likud Israel, which promotes the war and the escalation of the conflict with the Arabs, and the abandonment of all previous agreements and commitments, including the Camp David agreement with Egypt, the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians and the Israeli-Jordanian peace.. |
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| digitul punk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
You must hate organized and rational debate.
Your friend couldn't answer with his own arguments, so he resorted to war pictures which have absolutely no context whatsoever, but to circle right around with the circular arguments that Israel is evil evil evil.
How can you debate if the other guy just posts a list of pictures and links and makes no argumentative point himself but to make a few obscure statements? |
Ugh. Arn't YOU the one going back and forth with him? Atleast he has the decency to provide you with articles. And seriously, if you don't agree with someone... just call it quits. You don't have to sit there and indulge yourself in a 10 page flamefest which you know is wasting your own time. |
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| M.Johan |
| Qouted above ur post |
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| tathi |
thatīs ing disgusting if true, never would have guessed that Olmert would turn out to be as big a war criminal as Aerial Sharon or Hassan Nasrallah :( |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by M.Johan
Arguments?!!
After his war crimes and failure..........
The Israeli PM Olmert's (confessing)statement to the commission investigating the war is
"The war's planned in March 2006"
(3 months) before soliders're kidnapped.
The main component of the internal scene, regional and international current :
1.Inside Israel : Olmert's lowest popularity (after the war), and the growing popularity of the Likud.
2.In the region : His great war crimes against Lebanon(planned in March 2006),the great depression and discrimination practices against palastenines.
the supporting of terroristic groups (by the American intelligence) to disclose the iranian nuclear program.
The Sources:
U.S. Support for Terrorism in Iran
Anothers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Mujahedin_of_Iran
The Guardian
USA Today News
3.In the international field :Russian and Chineese supporting to Iran,the low popularity of Bush (his beloved brother) by 39% and the Republicans, political confrontation between the Republicans and Democrats,the rise in oil prices(during the invastion of Lebanone)
In General The worest image of USA & Israel (since 1948)
in front the whole world.
and ofcourse in the M.East
The Olmert's gov has been willing to engage in peace talks with the Arab parties,especially after the defeat of the Israeli forces at the hands of Lebanese Hezbollah,but has not been able to take progress in negotiating the draft because of the refusal of the American administration which is controlled by the Zionism Lobby based on the position of the neoconservatives in support of the orientations within the Likud Israel, which promotes the war and the escalation of the conflict with the Arabs, and the abandonment of all previous agreements and commitments, including the Camp David agreement with Egypt, the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians and the Israeli-Jordanian peace.. |
Excellent post. Those links are awesome. Sending it to my buddies immediately. :D :D :D |
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