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Exploration of Sound ( to all producers ) (pg. 21)
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| arctic |
| quote: | Originally posted by ms_bug
w0w robert i newer knew you are the part of 5th dimension! i mean i knew that some robert was in but i didnt realized it is you!
awesome work on rain of emotion! great tune!
ps. dave c didnt answered when arctic asked if he did the prototype 1 with brisky. so..... did he? |
| quote: | | heh, no dave isnt part of that. |
ah, thanks for clearing that up :)
btw, going off topic a tad, well done with the tune, well deserved :D |
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| DJ Sound |
| ya its only the third from last chord thats off...but sounds good |
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| Vizay |
it's one of the low notes that is wrong but apart from that...
WICKED!!!!!!
I reeeeally need to get myself one of those jp8000
dbl, wan't to share one with me? ;) |
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| dbl |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vizay
it's one of the low notes that is wrong but apart from that...
WICKED!!!!!!
I reeeeally need to get myself one of those jp8000
dbl, wan't to share one with me? ;) |
sure, if you pay it and i get to have it :D |
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| dbl |
| hmmm.... double post.. sorry.. dunno how it happend.. TA got like.. crazy or something |
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| Vizay |
| quote: | Originally posted by dbl
sure, if you pay it and i get to have it :D |
hehe it's funny coz I was thinking the exact same thing! :D ;) |
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| dbl |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vizay
hehe it's funny coz I was thinking the exact same thing! :D ;) |
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: |
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| Trancevision |
Hi people !
I was just watching this thread and how big it has become since those days when we started producing phat sounds.
Meanwhile lots of cool, but somtimes not very helpful post are in this thread and I want to bring it back to the roots where it all began.
Right now, most of us are able to create "supersaws" , quite good basslines and some ing great standard fxs...
the point of beginning was finding out how the pros do their sounds and what we can do to get similar results:
- The most producers who are sucessful since years use still
hardware because they got this equipment as when they began to produce, softsynths were crappy or not available
- Software Synths can produce also awesome sounds ( DJ . S.H.O.K.K. , Flutlicht to name some of my favourites )
- Exciter hardware of software and brilliant eqing bring sounds to the level of high quality
- Using samples from hardware synths ( preferable from high quality [expensive sometimes ] sampling CDs ) can make your software sampler ( NN19 for me ) sound really BIG and phat, clear & crispy
- Layering sounds is often a way to make sounds get phater, another way is "unisono"
- My personal experience shows that hardware is often sounding clearer and more crispy than software synths, but the difference in sound is ( compared to the different in $$$$ ) not very big.
I want to thank all those people who support this thread and invite you all to share your experience and knowledge with us.
Trancevision |
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| modular |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancevision
- My personal experience shows that hardware is often sounding clearer and more crispy than software synths, but the difference in sound is ( compared to the different in $$$$ ) not very big.
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i have to disagree... sorry
before i bought one (im not being smug here..honest) i tried and tried to find a software synth that performs the kind of magic that my virus can achieve ...with no luck whatsoever.
vaz is the only softsynth that i rate. it doesnt fit into my setup easy as id like tho. Emagic ES2 is pretty top notch too but neither can hold a candle up to the virus tho. |
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| Etherium |
My 2 cents regarding the last two replies is this:
I have never seen a softsynth that can create a bassline like my Virus can when I crank up the Unison and add a rectifier. The only one that comes close, very close, is the new Moog Modular (requires a supercomputer, my 1.8 p4 couldn't handle it).
Softsynths are getting better not by the year, but it seems to me they are improving by the month, almost by the week. It won't be more than a couple years from now when we will have a softsynth that will sound damn near just like an analog beast, like say a Moog Modular (analog purists please don't bite my head off for saying that). It is fascinating to think that in a few years we might have a Moog or Oberheim sound shooting out of a Powerbook.
Software definately has its advantages. Absynth is a sick program that I works so well as a software interface.
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| Vizay |
there are 2 softsynths that really fit in the top line of softsynths (read close to hardware)
VAZ and Spectrasonics atmosphere
theese two synths are simply amazing and if you take time to learn how to handle them they are pretty much all you need in melodyway (read all sort of sounds except drums and percussion)
but as it is today the hardware is still top notch...I've still not heard a synth produce as phat supersaw as the JP8000 or a richer sound then the Virus...but maybe in a couple of years...maybe :) |
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| Etherium |
I learned a new trick, thought I'd share it, if you like it cool, if not cool, I like it.
Basically, I've been trying to produce those plucky synths you hear in a lot of epic trancers and didn't have much luck until I ran into a trick in some literature I found.
For what it's worth, here it is. All of the details aren't there, but it's the best I can explain it:
In your synths modulation matrix what you're going to do is modulate
the filter decay with the filter envelope itself.
So the source of the modulation won't be an LFO, it will be the filter envelope itself (note that not all synths offer this) and the modulation destination would be the filter decay.
The filter modulation needs to be at its maximum NEGATIVE number.
To compensate raise the decay to its max level.
What is this doing:
Instead of the decay being simply fast, it is actually concave.
That's the trick. Recursive modulation! It can make the decay concave or convex, in this case we want concave.
Try convex for round basses by the way!
Notice now that if you have the env amount to its maximum and cutoff at very low value, that synth should be snapping!
Not finished yet.
Run this through a phaser, using 70 percent wet signal, a fairly slow rate, high depth, fairly low frequency, no feedback, three stages, spread 127.
If your synth allows you to increase the intensity of the attack, sometimes called Punch Intensity, then raise this to its max.
Slappy, snappy, whippy are words that come to mind if you get the subtleties right.
Granted, this could be confusing, I'll try to post sometime soon.
Good luck. |
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