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Exploration of Sound ( to all producers ) (pg. 3)
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Theotrope
How to make a nice fat CPU killing lead

if youve got a lot of processing power to blow away on unison, crank your pro52 up to 32x... "analog" setting up between half/ or three quarters using 2 sawtooths that are just a bit detuned. turn the "vel" (velocity controlled VCF) on, adjust your filter/amp envelopes to your taste, put glide on about 1/6th... and extend your notes into each other while increasing the velocity. you should be able to get a nice building lead. dont forget to EQ/compress/filter it



for Mike Russo - not really for the pads, but you can get a free string synthesizer called "Cheeze Machine" (i think something along those lines) which is just a couple oscs, a phaser, chorus, and reverb in one handy little vsti package. i havent used it yet but it does indeed crank out the nice cheesy strings... if you used some sort of medium clip overdrive it also might be able to do the "hard trance lead" sound that everyone here is familiar with
Theotrope
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dj dimwit
Come on people.......

Don't let this thread die.....where are those usefull tips?!
cyrus2k2
Ok, guys.
here my 2cents

i've posted this into another thread already. i started making some patches with absynth. here is my try to get that typical Svenson&Gielen sound. The melody is taken from their remix of 'Minimalistix - Close Cover'.
I used two instances of Absynth and three 3xOSC inside fruityloops, put some reverb, flanger and phaser on these synth and...gotcha!

http://rsr.host.sk/preview/closecover.mp3
Joi Lamusic
Cyrus, really REALLY awesome work!!! WOW!! And U did that with Fruity?? Any changes to get flp of that?
cyrus2k2
Ok, it's me again.
Since there were some requests of that flp file, i decided to put it to my webspace.
here is the download.

you can open the zip-file in fruityloops. i can't tell if absynth saves the last used patch, so i put the bank with that patch inside the zip file. if you can't hear anything or got other problems with the sound, try to load that patch-bank. then it should work.

oh, i forgot to warn you. this file is a cpu-killer. i own an athlon xp 1700+ with a sb1024 pci-card, and fruity's cpu-monitor is about 60%-70%!!!
the funny thing is, that it is NOT absynth that punches this value so high. with all channels muted but the absynth's one it's about 25% (it even doesn't matter if there are 1 or 2 instances of it, i think). so the problem must be the 3xOSC.

if you can make those synth sound better, or can fix the problem with that high CPU-value, please send me a copy of your work.

Where are your patches, banks, etc??? Show us what you got...
Trancevision
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Originally posted by Cyrus: fix the problem with that high CPU-value


I don't know fruity loops very well; I use Reason instead.
One idea to minimize cpu useness in general is Sampling:

1.Sample the following keys of your favourite synth sound with a length from at least 4 seconds: C0,G0,C1,G1,C2,G2,C3,G3,C4,G4,C5 and G5
2.Normalize these samples with a wav Editor
3.Put these samples into a software sampler ( like NN19 in Reason )
and map the corresponding samples to the corresponing keys.

It saves CPU Power ( the longer the samples and the more you have it takes RAM ... )
I already mailed Cyrus to sample me his new sound, so that I can
make it work for all Reason users amnong us;)

Trancevision
robstar
I made some changes, here´s my version of the close cover melody:

Save As Target!

It might sound a bit dry cuz I had no reverb on it. I tried to make it as good as possible by using lots of Eq and my Jp samples. :)
DJ Chrono
I got a new sample up at http://www.djchrono-samples.tk

check it out, its a two part combo from the supernova.
robstar
Cool sample man!

I have alittle question...

Okey , u have a hardware synth and u have made this melody u would like to record.

How do u do when ur recording it.
I mean it must be pretty hard to play it live. strings and thing like that I can record with out any problem but how tha hell do u record a Fast lead and make it fit the track?
Do u record it live or do u make the melody in midi format and then let the synth play the melody , so u can record it?

I have no idea... So it would be great if someone could answer my question. :)

Cheers!

:nervous:

DJ Chrono
what you do is set the hardware synth up on a midi track in your sequencer.. you would draw in the notes, just as you would for any softsynth.. and when you play it back, it sends the note info out to the synth, triggering the sound. To record this sound, you simply set up an audio track under your midi track.. you arm the blank audio track to record, and u solo the midi track with the synth on it, that you want to record. then you just press the play button, the synth plays back the sequenced notes, and the audio track records it in real time. Then you have the acual audio data as a sample in your timeline.
Trancevision
quote:
How do u do when ur recording it.


I just wonder that also people who are nearly pros in producing are interested in such things...how did you make beams of gaia and all your great stuff ?

Trancevision
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