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Exploration of Sound ( to all producers ) (pg. 31)
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Hard Session 1
sup ;)
Yes, big question, how to make a PHAT Sound :)
I work with reason and i use AKAI pro samples (jp-8000, Nord Lead, Acces Virus )

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How i make that ? Simple :)
I choose:
*-2 samples of jp-8000 ( A2 notes ), 90% of volume
*-1 samples of Acces Virus ( A3 notes ), 53% of volume
*-2 samples of Nord lead ( A2 notes ), 53% of volume
*- + substractor ( my own patch )
All mix in NN-XT ;)

If anyone has a questions, please write me: Hard_session_1@hotmail.com
Basil Rush
quote:
Originally posted by sm44
Hey. I was wondering how i would get the deep bass sound from slip friction - crazy. Preferably with a free fruity loops plug-in. I love that sound! I have a sample of the sound if people dont know what im talking about. Thanks


It's from an ATC-1 although I'm sure it's possible to do it with software. There's an LFO on the filter.

Good luck !
*InVeRs3*
uhh.........

someone tell me what the ranges are for low,mid, and high frequencies please?:D
Sonicstyle
only if you are a girl and if you make buttsecks with me :stongue:
*InVeRs3*
quote:
Originally posted by Sonicstyle
only if you are a girl and if you make buttsecks with me :stongue:


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!:toothless
BshidoHEAT
quote:
Originally posted by *InVeRs3*
uhh.........

someone tell me what the ranges are for low,mid, and high frequencies please?:D


Damn it InVerse, it maybe a month or so since you post this but
http://www.computermusic.co.uk/tutorial/eq/1.asp

there. just go through the whole tutorial
Nobody_Special
I am just starting out and I am clueless on how to begin. I read most of this stuff from page one. But I can't seam to make heads or tales of it. Which software are used in making all this stuff. Mayby if I can fool arround on the programs I will understand more.
Thanx for your time.
wizniz
quote:
Originally posted by Nobody_Special
I am just starting out and I am clueless on how to begin. I read most of this stuff from page one. But I can't seam to make heads or tales of it. Which software are used in making all this stuff. Mayby if I can fool arround on the programs I will understand more.
Thanx for your time.


i understand stuff but im pretty retarded so far.
ive only ever had the patience to learn how to use the 3xosc and i must say... im glad i did, but all these other synths have too many knobs :(

any of you guys able to recommend an easy synth to learn with?
daeus
quote:
Originally posted by wizniz
i understand stuff but im pretty retarded so far.
ive only ever had the patience to learn how to use the 3xosc and i must say... im glad i did, but all these other synths have too many knobs :(

any of you guys able to recommend an easy synth to learn with?


Start with Reason then move on to using it with Cubase? Im just trying to move over to including cubase with reason as we speak.
Mc-SnOe
lol what happened to the thread?

cronodevir
I think this thread needs a summary and an update. Its 2009 and people are still asking how to make phat sounds with software.
Beatflux
quote:
Originally posted by Bondor
"the magic *reverb* formula"

time the pre delay. it doesn’t matter what reverb you use on what instrument, you will find that some sound better with some interments but at the same time you might be going for a totally different feel in the song. Really what matters the most is the timing on the pre delay. lets say you were listening to a band play in a room or on stage, what do you hear?


+--------------+
|..............| S = Source
|......S.......| U = You
|..............|
|..............|
|..............|
|..............|
|..............|
|......U.......|
+--------------+


you hear the clear unaltered source music first(because thats the shortest path of the source to your ears) followed by the reflection of the room. The time between the two is determined by how big the room is, and the placement of the instruments. lets assume that the shortest reflection is from the back wall to U, being the first reverb reflection your ears hear. So the closer the source is to the back of the room the short the pre-delay time is, and the closer to you and further away from the back of the room the longer the pre-delay is. WOW ISNT THAT GREAT!!! but what difference does that make? well by timing the pre-delay on the reverb you can take your dry mix and layer it front to back in the room. If you set it up like a band you would usually place the drums in the back, with the shortest pre-delay, the backup singers or melody guitar in the middle, and the lead singer in front(closest to you, longest pre-delay). so now you have a stereo image that also has depth. cool huh? BUT, there is a problem. if you arbitrarily place the instruments front to back without any rhyme or reason you will end up with reverb hits that are VERY noticeable, and turning up the reverb just a little bit will make it sound swamped. SO WHAT ON EARTH DO YOU DO??!?!? easy, you time the reverb so that it falls in time with the song. WELL HOW DO YOU DO THAT?!??!?!?! easy, you figure out the length of 1/4 note(1 beat) in ms then just divide by two again and again and again. Your ear cant distinguish two differnt hits after about 20 or so ms, so you should start around there. Here’s an example of the reverb times i use on a 136 BPM track:

(in ms)
441.1 1/4 th
220.5 1/8
110.2 1/16 lead vocals or lead instruments (lead synth)
055.1 1/32 backup instruments (padds or stings)
027.5 1/64 drums (clap hi-hat, cymbals)
013.7 1/128 background stuff (ambient synths or noise)
006.8 1/256


mixing like this will let you drown the instruments in reverb without getting the sound swampy. But more importantly it adds non-conflicting depth to the song , as opposed to just left and right.

i dont know does that make sence?

the first time i did it to one of my songs, changing all the reverb times, and then pressing play, the song literally jumped out at me, the synths were in my face, and the drums were filling the room.

but with all that said, ferry corsten doesnt do this, so ... keep that in mind when making a track, this technique is used on major recordings and not necessarily on club friendly tracks.


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