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Is trance dead? (pg. 5)
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| vtec junkie |
| quote: | Originally posted by steven-neil
Cheers Brian,,you're a true fan...Thankyou... |
Anytime Danny Boy...you know I will always support you. |
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| avikonen |
| This year has been all about the rhythms. I predict next year or the year after melodies will return and folks will talk large about trance coming back :D |
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| me&myself |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
a better question is:
is trance uncool?
it's been 'culturally' dead for some time |
nah, that's a bad question)
i don't care what is considered to be cool or not cool)
i got my own opinion on things, and i love trance)
well, not this horrible dark theme, which i can't stand
well yeah, loving some old 2001 - 2003 tracks sometimes makes me feel old :haha: |
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| me&myself |
| quote: | Originally posted by avikonen
This year has been all about the rhythms. I predict next year or the year after melodies will return and folks will talk large about trance coming back :D |
maybe, maybe))
that'd be nice) |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | | nah, that's a bad question) |
i think it's a more realistic question. like it or not, fashion and fads are going to control the perception, regardless of the quality of the music |
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| Jason Jollins |
Trance Dj's bring out the biggest crowds in the world (including NYC), it's far from dead imo.
And this is coming from someone who for the most part doesn't enjoy a full on trance set (though i'm a sucker for a quality trance track thrown in here and there).
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| Jason Jollins |
I was asked a similar question in an interview on NCC about Progressive house which applies directly to this thread.
NCC: The term progressive house has been seen by some as a "dirty word" within the industry. What are your thoughts on the term progressive house and some of the negative press it has received over the past few years?
JJ: Just recently there was an amazing new track by Eric Prydz called Armed. It was the number 1 track on beatport.com and was/is being played by dj's crossing along many genres throughout the world. In beatport the track is being sold in the techno section and is listed as a techno track. While Pryda - Armed does have techno elements, it is essentially a progressive house track.
When I am music shopping I shop in the minimal, house, progressive house, electro, tribal, trance and techno section. One reason is because I like to play many different styles within my sets. However, it's also because there is so much mislabeling of tracks throughout the industry, especially in the past few years as new sub-genres are being created so often. You can find great house tracks in the progressive house section as well as great progressive house tracks in the minimal or techno section, etc...
The problem in my opinion is that there are so many crossover tracks that have different elements of different sub-genres that they are very hard to nail down to just one style. People do there best to label tracks in a proper way, but sometimes genre associations are not so cut and dry.
People for years have been saying progressive house is dead (just as they have said with trance, tech house, house, etc...) and they will soon be saying the same thing about minimal and electro (many already are).
If you go to a Sasha or a John Digweed show anywhere around the world you will see that progressive house is far from dead. Progressive house dj's draw some of the biggest crowds in the world.
Genre bashing is mainly done by certain media outlets who want to appear to be on top of the next big thing. The genre war keeps it interesting I guess, creates chatter and controversy.
However... Great music is great music, each sub genre of house, trance, electro and techno have great tracks.
Progressive house is far from dead and never was. One of the great things about this sub-genre is that it is always changing and evolving. It appeals to the music heads while at the same time appeals to the commercial crowd.
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| Frequency Frank |
| quote: | Originally posted by massivenyc
what defines intelligent music and juvenile music? the people who listen to it and attend events or the production difficulty? or another criteria? what makes one more intelligent than another? i hear that all the time as well and find the whole concept ridiculous, if someone doesnt like a genre just say so no need for stupid excuses, almost sounds like they need to justify for themselves why they shouldnt like while deep down they do. |
I hear you man. I think those statements come from how HUGE trance was in NYC from say 98-03. That makes some big shoes to fill for new guys. Couple that with the fact that trance was blowing up as a LOT of us just started hitting the clubs, and you get the juvenile/unimpressive responses you're talking about.
As for being 'intelligent', I think that's ridiculous. I'm not much of a trance guy, but generally speaking I see trance as more symphonic and layered than most house tracks. Generally speaking, I think house can be more experimental and implicite than trance. As a bit of a jazz fan myself, I tend to have a more open ear for that, but I always felt that it's extremely imortant to enjoy ALL music genres. Different sounds, different emotions, but always a story to be told. |
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| Frequency Mike |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frequency Frank
As for being 'intelligent', I think that's ridiculous. I'm not much of a trance guy, but generally speaking I see trance as more symphonic and layered than most house tracks. Generally speaking, I think house can be more experimental and implicite than trance. As a bit of a jazz fan myself, I tend to have a more open ear for that, but I always felt that it's extremely imortant to enjoy ALL music genres. Different sounds, different emotions, but always a story to be told. |
trance is def more symphonic, and the guys who produce it need and have a full understanding of music theory..
I like the older stuff better.. which is why im pumped we have the thrillseekers coming in on August 17th at love... steve is from that eara that we all talk about |
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| Frequency Mike |
| quote: | Originally posted by massivenyc
the event was 2 weeks ago. im sure tracks were played from a variety of yeras. |
im just bustin ya mikey lol |
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| Frequency Frank |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frequency Mike
trance is def more symphonic, and the guys who produce it need and have a full understanding of music theory..
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Non-symphonic music doesn't involve complex music theory? Thelonius Monk might take issue with that statemenet ;) |
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| massivenyc |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frequency Mike
im just bustin ya mikey lol |
i was bustin ya back, this whole thread is so tired and redundant...
but holy symphonic melodies batman, thrillseekers is gonna be sikkkkkkkkkkkk! |
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