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How much jail time should women who have abortions get? (pg. 6)
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RJT
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
sorry, but that sentence just cracked me up.


Yeah - I was wondering after I posted whether or not someone would catch that :p
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by CranberryJuice
same kind of story happened to the best friend of one of my friend , he got convincted for rape because a girl he had sex with and they were both drunk told the cops , he raped her when he was and has been finally proved after it was untrue , but before all that he had to be arrested and so on

from what i know his life is kind of messed up now

:(

yeah it messes a guys life up badly.
Lilith
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Originally posted by RJT
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20010696/site/newsweek

I'm sincerely glad I don't live in the United States, it's becoming a backwater religious fundi-fest a little more every year like all the backwater muslim fundamentalist countries they go to war with.
enferno
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Originally posted by Lilith
I'm sincerely glad I don't live in the United States, it's becoming a backwater religious fundi-fest a little more every year like all the backwater muslim fundamentalist countries they go to war with.



i want you to carry my children
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Lilith
I'm sincerely glad I don't live in the United States, it's becoming a backwater religious fundi-fest a little more every year like all the backwater muslim fundamentalist countries they go to war with.


yeah, i find it really humbling we both came from the same parents yet australia isnt nearly as fvcked up in certain areas as our pacific cousins.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by enferno
i want you to carry my children


she'd carry them off a cliff.
distant
Oh this debate again.

A fetus is not a person. It's closer to a ing parasite. Kill it all you want. Who the cares, really? Whose right is it to tell you what you can and can't do with some ty little thing in your womb?

P.S. inb4theresa
Lilith
Bleh, as if anything approaching normal is going to come out of my toxic womb... :nervous:
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah, i find it really humbling we both came from the same parents yet australia isnt nearly as fvcked up in certain areas as our pacific cousins.

I find it disconcerting that Australia is becoming a little more 'Americanised' over time, adopting some facets of the US culture which to be blunt, aren't exactly some of it's better ones. There's a lot of good things still to be said about the US but they're under siege from the small, noisy minorities that get heard only because the vast majority seem to be completely apathetic until it's too late. But I guess endemic stupidity/apathy isn't the sole preserve of the US, happens in most countries.
Lira
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Originally posted by distant
Oh this debate again.

A fetus is not a person. It's closer to a ing parasite. Kill it all you want. Who the cares, really? Whose right is it to tell you what you can and can't do with some ty little thing in your womb?

P.S. inb4theresa
You skipped the first post, didn't you?

Ironically, your stance seems to be just the other side of the coin.
distant
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Originally posted by Lira
You skipped the first post, didn't you?

Ironically, your stance seems to be just the other side of the coin.


Explain.

Clovis
Great article.


It touches on another serious issue that is central to political dialogue in this country right now, and one of the main reasons why Democratic candidates have been losing elections despite having the popular vote. Conservatives have been successfully re-framing the debate to make their positions more appealing for the last 30 years.

I read a brilliant little book called "Don't Think Of An Elephant" which essentially illustrates that point, and offers ways to re-frame it in favor of a progressive viewpoint. I highly recommend it.



Also, I think Abortion Rights should be left for women and women only to decide.
Lira
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Originally posted by distant
Explain.

Sure,

The first post is about how clueless some of the demonstrators were, and how "emotional" some of them were about the whole issue, clearly showing that they had not thought at all about the issue as a whole. Then you come and say something just as irrational (replacing the pro-life "abortion is wrong because the bible says so" by a pro-choice "abortion is okay because the foetus is a parasite").

You didn't even seem to acknowledge the fact that the problem being discussed is "mass opinion" rather than abortion itself.
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