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Christianity and Astrotheology (pg. 5)
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The statues of the 'gods' from the Pantheon are now
found in the Vatican Museum, with the exception of
the great statue of Jupiter. It has been modified,
retitled and seated on a throne in St. Peter's Basilica
in Rome as St. Peter. Thousands of pilgrims kiss the
foot of Jupiter while thinking it is the statue of Peter.
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From Wikipedia.
The definitive example of a cathedra is that encased within the Triumph of the cathedra Petri designed by Gian Lorenzo Bernini in 1657 and completed and installed in 1666. As early as the 8th century, an ancient wooden chair overlaid with ivory plaques depicting the Labors of Hercules and some of the signs of the Zodiac was venerated as the episcopal chair of St. Peter himself.
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The discrepant Dionysus, dated 300 AD with a halo of light surrounding his head.
the Death of Orpheus on the vine. notice the individual seemingly about to pierce his side.
Mosaic of Dionysus in a vineyard with goat-legged satyr found in Vatican necropolis .
Christian catacomb in Rome, portraying Orpheus sitting with a lyre
in center panel with animals and trees,
Surrounding panels portray Biblical scenes dated 300s A.D.
Dionysys crucified.
Cathedra displaying 12 Labours of Hercules |
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| Krypton |
| I still don't see how Christianity is an offspring of paganism, when really, it is an offspring of Judaism. Christianity has just been able to conform pre-existing spiritual belief systems to itself. |
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| i edited my comment while you were posting. check again for the pagan roots. |
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the Christians incorporated the Judaic Old Testament with the pagan New Testament. Yet even so, the OT was polytheistic, and had originally worked quite closely with astrology. Âncient Hebrew temples have revealed zodiacs, seen here:
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
I still don't see how Christianity is an offspring of paganism, when really, it is an offspring of Judaism. Christianity has just been able to conform pre-existing spiritual belief systems to itself. |
Is then Judaism an offspring of Paganism given that Abraham came from Ur in Babylonia? Then by that logic Christianity is indeed the offspring of Paganism just as the grandchild is the offspring of the grandfather.
But I think that just because Jesus was supposed to be a Jew and therefore his early followers were Jewish doesn't necessarily mean that it is an offspring of Judaism.
Then again there is a strong mystery religion undercurrent in Judaism that most don't know about. |
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i think calling it paganism detracts from meaning. let`s call it what it is: sun worship  |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Is then Judaism an offspring of Paganism given that Abraham came from Ur in Babylonia? Then by that logic Christianity is indeed the offspring of Paganism just as the grandchild is the offspring of the grandfather.
But I think that just because Jesus was supposed to be a Jew and therefore his early followers were Jewish doesn't necessarily mean that it is an offspring of Judaism.
Then again there is a strong mystery religion undercurrent in Judaism that most don't know about. |
No, Judaism is an offspring of Moses' Law. Now, you could say Moses was influenced by ancient Egyptian polytheism, but you also have to take into account that the religion founded on Moses centered around one god, thus monotheistic which is fundamentally different. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
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i bet i could find some old pictures of me when i was a kid that look exactly like that. am i jesus? |
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| {b.s.e.} |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i bet i could find some old pictures of me when i was a kid that look exactly like that. am i jesus? |
funny, i knew exactly what you were going to post. try and be less predictable.
are there any pictures from your childbirth depicting you getting crucified on a vine? |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
No, Judaism is an offspring of Moses' Law. Now, you could say Moses was influenced by ancient Egyptian polytheism, but you also have to take into account that the religion founded on Moses centered around one god, thus monotheistic which is fundamentally different. |
Judaism is the direct result of Abraham's covenant to worship YHVH above all other gods. But if you think it doesn't incorporate the mystery religion then I don't agree. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Judaism is the direct result of Abraham's covenant to worship YHVH above all other gods. But if you think it doesn't incorporate the mystery religion then I don't agree. |
What mystery religion? Abraham did not develop the Jewish doctrines. |
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