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December 21st 2012... (pg. 11)
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
In my own personal view i do believe in evolution but i think the beginning of things was an act of god.
I think the problem is man made religion - people have been forced to either accept the whole 6000 years old, made in 7 days, adam and eve thing OR science when imo science/evolution is god's handy work.
Imagine for a moment there is a god and he did kick things off but for the last 2000 years generation after generation has been force fed a particular religion's view of how it all came to be and that view is nothing like the truth.
What if for the last 2000 years we had been told that god created a universe billions of years ago that had the ability to grow and change as it needed, would it not align more with what we know today? Keep in mind there is nothing to PROVE this didn't happen. |
i agree. i might be a card-carrying atheist but i certainly dont discount the possibility that some super power created the universe. i also dont think evolution poses a problem for religion or belief in god, except they need to explain at what stage the monkey developed a soul ;) there is no reason to believe god didn't start the universe rolling with a set of rules and now we're here. i find that completely plausible (if one were to accept god's existence).
i am far more concerned with the negative effects of religious indoctrination than i am about the question of god's existence (or lack thereof).
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
Break the concept of evolution down and you have some amazing and mysterious works at play that science can't explain. |
are you sure? i mean, i know i certainly can't explain it. which is why i leave the discovery and explanation to the experts that are far more equipped to answer these questions than me.
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
What tells all these tiny little cells and DNA to change (and often quite significantly)in animals over time - how do they know how to change? We have some great theories but that's all they are. |
gumble??
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
PKC the other thing i would suggest you look at that challenges skeptics is crop circles. Some (very basic ones) have been proven to be faked however 90% defy possibility yet are there to be seen. The doug and dave explanation has also been proven false to ;) |
oh jesus. hey scotty, could i interest you in a koolaide stand? :D i dont know a great deal about crop circles but i haven't seen any evidence to suggest aliens made them ;) i will generally refer to the prohibitive size of the universe and the very real problem of faster than light travel as serious concerns for anyone believing in ET visits.
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
Look at the pyramids - every single scientific theory as to how 'we' did it has been proven impossible yet there they are. |
oh come on scotty. that's just ridiculous. just because we might not know exactly how the pyramids were built is not reason enough to go off hunting for ET, considering that there is precisely ZERO evidence that aliens built the pyramids.
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
And back to the mayans and the sumarians etc, as i keep saying forget the 'prophecy' stuff but have a look at the facts - everything you read will acknowledge they had a better measure of time and the calendar then we do today. |
but they didn't. at no site have i been able to find evidence that they understood that each day was 24 hrs and 4-seconds which we take into account with our leap years.
the mayan calendar is merely a time-keeping device that happens to end on 21 december, ummmm big deal. i have already shown you that the concept of planet alignment is a myth, so i fail to see the importance of their calendar ending on that day, any more than i see the importance of ours ending on december 31st.
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
Add to this they left detailed diagrams of planets and the solar system we have only just discovered. how did they do it? |
can you provide a link for this too? ive seen ancient drawings passed off as knowing about planets that cannot be observed with the naked eye, and all i see is wishful thinking. there is no doubt that the mayans were gifted astronomers, and many heavenly bodies are observable with the naked eye. perhaps they even had crude telescopes to look at the night sky.
but i have yet to see any evidence that supports the idea that they knew about particular planets or bodies that we need a modern, powerful telescope to see.
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
I think scepticism is healthy and to a large degree neccessary but surely even a tasmanian like you gets to a point where you stop raping small boys and think that just maybe there is something pretty big at work here :) |
Sorry, but I don't have the human gene that makes me correlate facts that have no evidence to connect them ;) I think youre trying to connect some very sloppy dots with some even sloppier assumptions. Not as sloppy as your mum, but sloppy all the same. |
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| sunrise3500 |
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
So you're seriously telling me 'random erros' in meiosos are responsible for the vast and extremely vital changes species go through over time to give them a better chance at survival?
farking LOL. i find religion easier to believe than that and i truly dont believe in religion. |
Yeah that's right, high five!
I'm sure this could even be simulated.. if you have the time/care for that kind of thing.
A positive mutation allows for easier surival, this gets passed along.. Over 100s/1000s of years, a winner is you.
What you think the matrix architect changes the code and causes evolution? :) haha |
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| batemanscott |
| quote: | Originally posted by sunrise3500
There's evidence to suggest that rocks (atleast the ones higher up in the pyramids) weren't quarried but cast (ie concrete). Easy to get a shape as perfect as you like :)
Never heard anything about the stones having a magnetic field.
The rest is just having smarts and time. |
2.5 million rocks weighing between 2 tonnes and 25 tonnes, perfectly cut and aligned, constrcuted with a knowledge of pi to 15 decimal points plus some unfathomable method of getting them up there..sorry mang but here is simply no way that was done by men in 20 years that long ago. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
aligment to the orion belt, |
oh come on. they can see the stars can't they? and how does one align something on the ground to a series of stars, considering those stars shift in their position of the sky, depending on the time of the year? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
2.5 million rocks weighing between 2 tonnes and 25 tonnes, perfectly cut and aligned, constrcuted with a knowledge of pi to 15 decimal points plus some unfathomable method of getting them up there..sorry mang but here is simply no way that was done by men in 20 years that long ago. |
sorry mang but you've really gone off the deep-end of fantasy land if you seriously think aliens built the pyramids. |
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| sunrise3500 |
If the egyptians really did have alien help, then surely the aliens would have been seen as gods and there'd be drawings of them all over the place to honor them... why not some statues for them too? No, they were all of themselves. Hail to the king baby!
Myth, BUSTED. |
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| sunrise3500 |
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
2.5 million rocks weighing between 2 tonnes and 25 tonnes, perfectly cut and aligned, constrcuted with a knowledge of pi to 15 decimal points plus some unfathomable method of getting them up there..sorry mang but here is simply no way that was done by men in 20 years that long ago. |
You don't need to know the value of PI to have yourself a circle now do you?
There's a lot of ways to do it and get the same result. Pen and paper (or payrus) isn't the only way. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| scotty has just fallen in love with the concept of anal probes, that's all. |
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| James Brooke |
| quote: | Originally posted by sunrise3500
If the egyptians really did have alien help, then surely the aliens would have been seen as gods and there'd be drawings of them all over the place to honor them... why not some statues for them too? No, they were all of themselves. Hail to the king baby!
Myth, BUSTED. |
maybe the aliens looked like the sphynx?? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by James Brooke
maybe the aliens looked like the sphynx?? |
there is more evidence to support the assertion that my dick can mix tunes. |
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| sunrise3500 |
| quote: | Originally posted by James Brooke
maybe the aliens looked like the sphynx?? |
It's mythological.
But if you want to think your aliens are lions with a human head, please do. :)
Note the greeks and many other civilisations also done this. |
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| James Brooke |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
there is more evidence to support the assertion that my dick can mix tunes. |
do they make mixers small enough? |
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