Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Dude MacDonalds?out of all the things they can have there you choosed MacDonalds lol .It is a good thing they dont have that garbage food,and thats why there are in much better shape then your typical American cows.;)
You're probably right - bad example
But it's only world-wide, recognizable commercial symbol that came to mind at the moment...:crazy:
Fir3start3r
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
yeah but you see those things wont matter musch to guys like Fir3start3r.As long he was pro western and pro American meant he was a good leader.:o
Yea, because you know, the Ayatollah Khomeini had absolutely NO religious influence during the Islamic Revolution at all...:rolleyes:
You guys are so filled with anti-Americanism; you need to take the blinders off once in a while to recognize that not everything is Bush's fault...
hardcore trancer
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Yea, because you know, the Ayatollah Khomeini had absolutely NO religious influence during the Islamic Revolution at all...:rolleyes:
you are missing the point again.It was the people that wanted the Islamic revolution.At the end they got screwd and got something else,and that is why they wont make the same mistake again and wont allow any other nation to interfere with their politics.
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You guys are so filled with anti-Americanism; you need to take the blinders off once in a while to recognize that not everything is Bush's fault...
As if you are not islamophobic yourself at all.:rolleyes:
Krypton
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Really? Then explain why they are a theocracy? Because they hate America enough?
They have a theocracy because...
1. Constitutional democracy failed when the government was deposed by foreigners.
2. The Shah failed because of his heavy handed rule among other things.
So what did the people have left? RELIGION! It's not that hard to understand...
Krypton
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
You guys are so filled with anti-Americanism; you need to take the blinders off once in a while to recognize that not everything is Bush's fault...
You've got to be kidding me...:rolleyes:
So criticism of a hardline FAILED policy is "anti-Americanism". Please explain how I, an American, am "anti-American"? Tell me, who decided in 2003 to unilaterally depose of Iran's primary enemy? Hint..it wasn't Clinton..:o
Hardtrancer may be termed "anti-American", but as an American, I'de rather call myself a really really strong dissenter. George Bush ruined American conservatism. He ruined the Republican Party. He destroyed whatever Republicanism I used to have. This is my prediction. 2008 will be the year of the re-emergence of the Democratic Party in executive power. The Republicans will pay dearly for the last 8 years of disastrous mismanagement.
jerZ07002
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Dude MacDonalds?out of all the things they can have there you choosed MacDonalds lol .It is a good thing they dont have that garbage food,and thats why there are in much better shape then your typical American cows.;)
no...actually they aren't fat because most can't afford extra food. i guess that a great benefit for them.
Fir3start3r
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Originally posted by Krypton
They have a theocracy because...
1. Constitutional democracy failed when the government was deposed by foreigners.
2. The Shah failed because of his heavy handed rule among other things.
So what did the people have left? RELIGION! It's not that hard to understand...
Ding!
Someone gets it...
Fir3start3r
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
you are missing the point again.It was the people that wanted the Islamic revolution.At the end they got screwd and got something else,and that is why they wont make the same mistake again and wont allow any other nation to interfere with their politics.
That doesn't even make sense.
You either didn't type that right or I'm reading (and I'm paraphrasing here since I'm not sure what you're saying) that the Iranians wanted a revolution, got it, didn't like the government they put in place themselves and because of that mistake, won't let any other nation interfere with their politics...
Please tell me you mistyped this...
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As if you are not islamophobic yourself at all.:rolleyes:
Really? When did I ever say I didn't like anyone of Islam besides the ones that are ruining it?
If that's what you want to think then fine, but that's what going on in your own mind however you can't prove it.
In fact, I challenge you to find ANY post that I've written where I state that I hate Islamic people.
Good luck with that...:rolleyes:
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
As if you are not islamophobic yourself at all.:rolleyes:
the myth of islamophobia
Fir3start3r
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
the myth of islamophobia
Good video.
I've seen this one before and he pretty much sums up all my views on, "Islamophobia"...
Krypton
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Ding!
Someone gets it...
Yes, but you don't get it. You just said they have a theocracy because they "hate America enough". You are making this whole scenario out as if the Iranians are sole problem, the cause, the bad guy. Ok, tell that to the Iranians, and see where that gets you. Oh, nevermind, it's already been done. Where has it gotten us?
hardcore trancer
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Originally posted by jerZ07002
no...actually they aren't fat because most can't afford extra food. i guess that a great benefit for them.