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Just something to think about (pg. 2)
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| Ph03n1x |
| quote: | | some of your points are definitely valid Jake and I can see your side. what bothers me is the issues of blame. the outrageous and ignorant comments that were made in one event versus another. also, the blame that was given where it was undue. there was no excuse or reason for that |
Agreed. |
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| jonas |
| I was hoping to get this response. No, I was not comparing these two events in terms of disaster. I was comparing in terms of the response from the people. But, one point was made about having a degree in math to see Jake's point. However, an economics degree will show that there will be an equally heavy detriment in terms of dollars that may not be as quickly realized. This has affected more than one state that produces much of the nations crop of corn and soy. People will lose out big because of what they lost. Little human life was lost during this time, but the welfare of many Americans will be affected now and in the years to come. But where is Al Sharpton, Spike and all of the other black apologist during this time. Where is the crime? Where is the blame? It doesn't exist. |
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| Zild |
You misunderstood my point if you think I said you need a degree in math to understand my point. I simply stated that is one of the only things I know that will straighten a person out. Economics works to given you're doing it at a high enough level that you need advanced statistical models analagous to those used in quantum mechanics.
Sure this is a disaster, but on the level of Katrina? Don't make me laugh.
Like I said earlier response from the people is directly related to the severity of the disaster. |
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| maddraver |
| i agree with jonas the most, but everyone is right i think |
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| Zild |
I touched on education, net income, and location when I estimated the severity of the disaster. It is all there in the sentence about sandbagging the university as opposed to being in one of the most dangerous cities 'praying' that Katrina hits a few hundred miles down the coast.
I guess I didn't make it as explicit as was necessary. Will try harder next time. |
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| Zild |
| Damn ninja deletes I should have quoted. |
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| diggerz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
I touched on education, net income, and location when I estimated the severity of the disaster. It is all there in the sentence about sandbagging the university as opposed to being in one of the most dangerous cities 'praying' that Katrina hits a few hundred miles down the coast.
I guess I didn't make it as explicit as was necessary. Will try harder next time. |
Mine was horrible. I had to delete. |
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| diggerz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
I touched on education, net income, and location when I estimated the severity of the disaster. It is all there in the sentence about sandbagging the university as opposed to being in one of the most dangerous cities 'praying' that Katrina hits a few hundred miles down the coast.
I guess I didn't make it as explicit as was necessary. Will try harder next time. |
what's interesting here is that everyone feels like the government is responsible for it, which is worrying, as the population becomes more dependent on government decision making. |
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| jonas |
| quote: | Originally posted by diggerz
what's interesting here is that everyone feels like the government is responsible for it, which is worrying, as the population becomes more dependent on government decision making. |
My name is Steve and I approve this post.
Jake-I think you and I agree on the same points while making different points here. |
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| Zild |
| I think when you're traded personal liberties by placing power into government agencies meant to handle disasters like this such as FEMA or the National Guard there should be an expectation that help will come. If not then dissolve those agencies and give us our money and liberties back. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonas
My name is Steve and I approve this post.
Jake-I think you and I agree on the same points while making different points here. |
I agree that all the namecalling and passing the blame, etc.. was a bunch of bull. The people needed help and they needed it then. They didn't need a bunch of idiots talking about conspiricies or calling everyone racist or all the stupid . I did think Sean Penn was pretty cool for taking a boat down to New Orleans and trying to pick survivors. I don't see what was wrong with that. And having heard Barbara Bush's comments I might have said myself that George Bush doesn't give a about black people. I'm sure he doesn't. |
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| maddraver |
| yeah, its the states responsibility. they do tend to blame it on the federal government though. another good point is that katrina happened overnight and these floods were a much slower process.although katrina people were warned, lots had nowhere to go so they ended up staying. |
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