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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by diggerz
from what i hear employers focus on "work experience" mostly. On the other hand, i've heard rumors that employers just look where and what you majored in or somethin'. |
That's because employers can have the requirements for a position be 'a 4 year degree, or 4 years experience in the field' and pick the person with experience who probably will do a better job and on top of that the employer can pay them less money because they don't have a piece of paper that says they are 'educated'.
Happened to me at USAA. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by Ph03n1x
Ha! They don't compare to my 3.8.
Who doesn't have to work there arse off to be successful? |
Maybe maybe not. Not really sure what degree you're getting but there are only a handful of choices that I respect so I'll just keep my mouth shut.
Just saying I know people who have had As in everything come into Thermodynamics and Quantum Mechanics only to be utterly destroyed and change their majors to CS or economics etc... and that's because they would rather finish with a good GPA in a field they don't like than take their licks with the rest of us.
I know I'd hire someone with a 2.0 in chemistry over anyone with a 4.0 in english, women's studies, comparative literature, mexican american studies, etc...
Not to down you though. Congrats on your wonderful GPA and all. |
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| diggerz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Maybe maybe not. Not really sure what degree you're getting but there are only a handful of choices that I respect so I'll just keep my mouth shut.
Just saying I know people who have had As in everything come into Thermodynamics and Quantum Mechanics only to be utterly destroyed and change their majors to CS or economics etc... and that's because they would rather finish with a good GPA in a field they don't like than take their licks with the rest of us.
I know I'd hire someone with a 2.0 in chemistry over anyone with a 4.0 in english, women's studies, comparative literature, mexican american studies, etc...
Not to down you though. Congrats on your wonderful GPA and all. |
I agree. I think GPA is not as important as the 'actual degree' stating you majored in such and such. a high gpa is respectable though, it shows that the guy can finish something and finish it well.
you shouldn't worry jake i think the medicine field is growing rapidly. in two to three years we'll be seeing incredible growth in pharmaceutical companies (i hope). i take it your a chem major? if so, what would your dream job be? |
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| Zild |
My dream job is to be Paul Graham. I'm on the computational side of things. I only did chemistry because I figured if I was going to spend money on an education it better be something difficult (after wasting two and a half years being a philosophy major at UT). Basically I want to address a problem that can be solved with software and then found a company to develop that software. If I do well enough one of the larger companies like MS, Google, Yahoo, etc... will buy me up for millions and then I can use that to make early round investments in other promising technical start ups. I'm only doing the school thing right now to learn math and problem solving skills and to poach genius kids for my company.
My original idea was a web based office solution. That way you can just go to www.jakesofficeprog.com and create an account. After you do that you can login and create any type of office document which will be stored on the servers. Unfortunately I was 5 years behind, so I'm coming up with something new but I'm sure I'm still behind on that. I'm not worried though as there is no shortage of problems that need to be solved. I think the key is to pick one that nobody wants to work on. Much like nobody wants to major in chemistry so getting into grad school shouldn't be too tough even with a sub 3.0 GPA. If you have 15 spots a year and only 7 kids apply I think they get the spots regardless of GPA. |
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| diggerz |
| why are we making jonas thread bigger than it is? :whip: |
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| Ph03n1x |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Maybe maybe not. Not really sure what degree you're getting but there are only a handful of choices that I respect so I'll just keep my mouth shut.
Just saying I know people who have had As in everything come into Thermodynamics and Quantum Mechanics only to be utterly destroyed and change their majors to CS or economics etc... and that's because they would rather finish with a good GPA in a field they don't like than take their licks with the rest of us.
I know I'd hire someone with a 2.0 in chemistry over anyone with a 4.0 in english, women's studies, comparative literature, mexican american studies, etc...
Not to down you though. Congrats on your wonderful GPA and all. |
I guess I'm lucky. I already have a great career. |
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| Zild |
| That's cool. I just never want to work for salary. Everyone has different desires and different ideas of success. I would consider myself a failure if I got paid 80,000 salary working in a lab using my chemistry degree, but everyone else I know says that is a great career. them. |
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| progressiveMOJO |
the thing that's most telling to me is that now, almost 3 years after Katrina hit, most of the "refugees" have done very little work of their own to improve their lives and would rather leech of the government and commit crimes in Texas cities than go out and get jobs and integrate as functioning members of society in their new (provided for them on someone else's dollar) homes.
The fact is, ty things happen to everyone, not just uneducated and lazy people. But when schooled and/or motivated people have bad things happen to them they deal with it and move forward in the best way they can instead of whining and complaining until someone else makes it better for them.
and guys, there's nothing 100% absolute that states one degree is better than another just because it's in a technical field and a lot harder. Yes, many if not most "liberal arts" educations are probably wasted time and money, but many of them are fully worthwhile and not everyone needs to be (or should be) a scientist or engineer. We're all happy that you got your chem degree or your engineering degree or whatever, but it's not a reason to be arrogant or elitist (I'm not accusing anyone, just stating a fact). And before you ask, I'm studying mechanical engineering at a hard school, so I'm not just defending myself here. |
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| diggerz |
| quote: | Originally posted by progressiveMOJO
there's nothing 100% absolute that states one degree is better than another just because it's in a technical field and a lot harder. |
yes, there is a difference if you graduate from Stanford than, say, UT Austin. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by diggerz
yes, there is a difference if you graduate from Stanford than, say, UT Austin. |
So true. I still hate my parents for not letting me go to Brown. I should have been a man instead of a boy.
Oh and progmojo you're the one who said that most liberal arts degrees are wasted time and money not me. And I'll be an elitist whenever I damn well feel like it because nobody in my company is going to have a bitch degree. |
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| jonas |
| quote: | Originally posted by progressiveMOJO
the thing that's most telling to me is that now, almost 3 years after Katrina hit, most of the "refugees" have done very little work of their own to improve their lives and would rather leech of the government and commit crimes in Texas cities than go out and get jobs and integrate as functioning members of society in their new (provided for them on someone else's dollar) homes. |
This goes to my point in a previous thread about not hesitating to shoot someone that is trying to rob me. If we lived in a society where people were committing crime because they were truly in need, I would have a little more compassion. But these people only want to take instead of work for something, even if that means killing in the process. It comes easy for them. I have no problem taking the life of someone that has that much respect for themselves or others (in self defense, of course). |
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| jonas |
| Ain't nobody got on my Cosmetology 'certificate'. |
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