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crazy gas prices thread (pg. 7)
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malek
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Originally posted by geroin
with a nice annual fee of $120 a year

if you're willing to pay a fee of 120 for a card the best card for that right now is rbc visa platinum avion



when you are approved for it you get 15000 bonus points just for signing up which is 125 bucks back + load of other benefits


it's 0$ for me ;)

plus i don't bank with RBC.
activate
quote:
Originally posted by geroin
+ its the first card to have a chip system in canada which is an increased protection against fraud/card copying




I've got an RBC Visa Classic card with the chip.
geroin
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Originally posted by activate
I've got an RBC Visa Classic card with the chip.


probably because you're either a staff or live in kitchener waterloo
all cards will be migrating to a chip system in sometime.
activate
but i thought you said the platinum avoin is the first card in canada to have the chip?
exstasie
quote:
Originally posted by activate
but i thought you said the platinum avoin is the first card in canada to have the chip?



I don't know if it is the first or not, but maybe it'll be the first that is available to the general public.

Right now you can get a chip card in K/W because they are currently doing a chip trial in there to test it out before it is 'officially' launched on the market.

But chip cards have been available to people for a while for those who work in the industry to test it. I'm just to lazy to get one lol

But a lot of my co-workers have TD chip cards already (only for debit though).

2009 is the tentative start date for releasing chip cards (Debit & Credit) to the market, but majority of merchants can already expect chip cards, including ABMs.

geroin
quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
I don't know if it is the first or not, but maybe it'll be the first that is available to the general public.

Right now you can get a chip card in K/W because they are currently doing a chip trial in there to test it out before it is 'officially' launched on the market.

But chip cards have been available to people for a while for those who work in the industry to test it. I'm just to lazy to get one lol

But a lot of my co-workers have TD chip cards already (only for debit though).

2009 is the tentative start date for releasing chip cards (Debit & Credit) to the market, but majority of merchants can already expect chip cards, including ABMs.



thank you.
avion is/was the first chip card available to public in canada
activate
FFS.. you're no fun

p.s. I work for a certain bank and am already aware of all of the above.
naillil
quote:
Originally posted by dj_souvlaki


diesel prices should be half of gasoline cause it costs less to refine than gasoline and can be stored for longer periods of time.



not necessarily true - with ultra-low sulphur spec demands on diesel it's starting to cost more to clean up diesel before it hits the pumps. also diesel and gasoline come from the same barrel of oil, so it's not like you can have a refinery produce just diesel or just gasoline...nor can you refine a barrel of oil to make just diesel or just gasoline. so in terms of refinery costs to product gasoline vs. diesel, it's not the difference you think. From a refiners point of view, they want to maximize the yield (and margins) of each barrel of oil they can produce but you'll always have byproduct and make stuff you necessarily don't need or that isn't profitable but that's when supply/demand and market forces come into play.

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[b]Originally posted by dj_souvlaki [/b

use a good quality gasoline (shell is the most superior)


I found this interesting when I found this out recently... just because you're buying Shell Gasoline doesn't necessarily mean it was refined at a Shell refinery - oil companies buy/trade the oil that gets to their actual pumps. It goes through pipelines and gets stored in bulk storage where it's mixed with gasoline from different refineries. So depending on geographical area the gasoline at the pumps (regardless of which gas station you are at .. Shell, Esso, Petro-Canada etc) are generally supplied from the same company who has a refinery closeby. I forget how it goes... but it's something like most gasoline in the Southern Ontario Area is Imperial Oil/Suncor since the refineries are in Sarnia whereas Quebec may be mostly Petro-Canada... (not sure on the exact specifics, but that's the general ides). So you may be loyal to one brand or another since they quality is good but at the end of the day it's all pooled together.
Skipper
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Originally posted by MarkT
one analyst or expert estimated that demand for oil will only have to outstrip supply by something like five percent before there are likely to be *major* consequences, such as the complete collapse of many economies...and war.


I fully believe oil will fuel (whon whon) one of the biggest world wars in history.

An excellent source for energy related stats/articles/research is the Intl Energy Agency (IEA). Most other information, like articles in the newspaper, is mostly just opinion.
MarkT
quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I fully believe oil will fuel (whon whon) one of the biggest world wars in history.

An excellent source for energy related stats/articles/research is the Intl Energy Agency (IEA). Most other information, like articles in the newspaper, is mostly just opinion.


I don't doubt that there will be major conflict and collapses.

this is the problem when "the market" is depended upon to correct a situation. oil is such an integral part of global infrastructure that there is virtually no chance (IMHO) that dependence will have sufficiently subsided once scarcity hits.

malek
quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I fully believe oil will fuel (whon whon) one of the biggest world wars in history.

An excellent source for energy related stats/articles/research is the Intl Energy Agency (IEA). Most other information, like articles in the newspaper, is mostly just opinion.


Most if not all major conflicts were because of oil in the 20th century,... every excuse was used as a pretext for war.

Too bad isn't available in English yet:

Orko
quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I fully believe oil will fuel (whon whon) one of the biggest world wars in history.

An excellent source for energy related stats/articles/research is the Intl Energy Agency (IEA). Most other information, like articles in the newspaper, is mostly just opinion.


That means we are ed. With one of the largest oil deposits in the world, and no real offensive military to speak of, we are in trouble. Oil, water, food...Canada has it all!
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