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Pro Tips On How To Make Your Logic/Cubase Tracks Sound Better And More Proffessional! (pg. 24)
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| cronodevir |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
No, we haven't. We thought the earth was flat and we were wrong. We thought the earth was the centre of the universe but it's not. We believed in a God because we didn't understand how the world works, at least not to a level where we could question the universe. Now we can and while we still may believe in a higher power, we don't 100% guarantee it. Nobody smart enough does.
Yes, they did teach you. They taught you what all those characters mean and then they taught you how to figure out a simple mathematical equation. To say that you learned is by yourself is a complete crock of . |
No, old Europeans thought the world was flat and that earth was the center of the universe. That wasn't the view held by the rest of the world. That was exclusive to Europe.
And no, they taught me numbers, I knew math because it was logical...
Anyways, I'm getting tired of this place for now, I'm taking a month off from Ta.. Woo Hoo and all that jazz....
I won't respond or read anything, so no point in posting. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
You sure are posting a lot lately. |
I'm trying to catch up to you. I'm certain, however, to fail in that regard. |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
I'm taking a month off from Ta.. |
Success! :D |
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| mysticalninja |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Logic is the thing that doesn't have to be proved. I don't have to prove to you that 4+4=8. Logic is a proof. |
The complete proof of 2 + 2 = 4 involves 2,452 subtheorems and 25,933 steps.
nubcake!!
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
I'm not a christian. Not protestant, not Catholic, nothing.
I'm simply someone who realizes the truth. |
Yes, the truth about being gay being a mental illness, evil Jewish conspiracies, evolution being absurd, and not having a creator be impossible. You obviously have christian upbringing. Does anywhere besides "bum no where" (middle america/the south) believe this stuff? honestly?
| quote: | | Originally posted by cronodevir Humans have always known there is a creator. |
I knew there wasn't when I was 8 years old. :wtf: I asked my granma.. "What does god look like.., the wind?" I could immediately tell from the look on her face i asked a 'bad' question. One that made her uncomfortable. She kind of chuckled like it was a silly question, and couldn't really answer. She just said he's everywhere. I knew right then and there I wasn't a believer.
If you would follow through with your own logic, that since nothing comes from nothing the universe must have been created, you would realise that: the creator must have been created...and the creator of the creator must have been created...and so ad infinitum, leaving you with an "infinite recession" of creators. All very unconvincing, not to say absurd.
We don't know how the universe came about, but we do know mankind created God, with about 2500 other deities |
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| Fledz |
| Oh wait - he doesn't believe in evolution either? LMFAO this is awesome and so sad at the same time :haha: |
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| Raphie |
| 24 pages later..................................... |
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| lenieNt Force |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
There was never any theory. Humans have always known there is a creator. Recently [as in, last 3-4 thousand years] the idea that there is no creator has been perpetuated and in some places it is the majority view.
Not everyone will realize it obviously. Especially when you have people out there who purposefully do things that prevents others from realizing it. |
Well I too agree with you that there is a creator, and I strongly believe so. If it wasn't, I wouldn't want to live. But what I'm saying is that you cannot prove it with your logic/science, nor can you prove that there isn't any creator with logic/science. You can say that nothing can bring itself into existence, because before it eventually did, it didn't exist. But then some other intelligence must have brought it into excistence; eg. "the creator." But then another question arises, who brought the creator into existence? Or is he infinite in time and infinite in space? If so, why cannot our universe be just that aswell? Does the creator follow any other logical rules than we do? Does he exist outside time and space*? If so, how can you prove that, with your logic?
*(then I mean a space, not spesifically our space, if it is so that we live in our own space and he lives in his).
See? It can go on and on with our logic, hence we can not prove it with that. If you say you can prove with logic that our universe is not infinite in time backwards, then you must also be able to prove with your logic that the creator is not infinite in time backwards. Because the universe encompasses everything, including the creator. So if the creator had a start, something must have created the creator. But then again, this creator of the creator can not have existed forever, according to your logic, so it must have been created by another creator. But, indeed, this creator.. hello? it cannot have existed forever, at least not according to our logic, so something... call it a creator, must have created this creator.. And on it goes. And guess what? There you have it - infinity.
I wanna tell you a little story about an experience I had many years ago, but first, let me speak a little bit about the universe.
When you reach the end of space, you can probably touch it as it's some black wall. But then you ask yourself, whats beyond this black wall? There has to be something, cause if there's nothing, nothing is also something. See? Infinity. It was no end, it was just a black wall. But the thing is, when you reach this point, you don't reach any black wall, you've actually been going around in a circle, and you've ended up right where you started. (One could claim that to think you reach a black wall when you come to this place is just as dumb as thinking the earth is flat and you'll reach the end of the world if you keep sailing across the ocean.) Well that might be so, but thats another hypothesis, and definately not logical according to our brain, cause we did go straight forward, we know that, we can even look behind us and see the straight line back to where we started. To end up at that same place again while keep going away from it is just not logical. BUT, right there you have the evidence of that there is more dimensions than 3. You need to be outside this dimension to see that it's actually not a straight line. Imagine a being living in a 2 dimensional world. He can only move to the left, or to the right. Thats all he can do, and he's pretty satisfied with that because its the only movement he knows of, and the only dimensions he sees. He cannot see upwards or downwards, because he don't know of those directions, that axis, he lives in a 2 dimensional world. But we can see that his missing the oppertunity to look upwards or downwards, because we live in a 3 dimensional world, outside his dimension. So lets try to trick this being. We put his world in a loop, a circle. Just like the tire on a car. As he walks inside this tire, up on the rim, all around the wheel, suddenly he finds himself in the same position as he started. WTF!? he says.. Whatta hells going on??? Like I was here just a minute ago, and I've been walking a straight line forward and now Im here again!!!!!!! Whatta mann!!! My world collapses, I'm gonna cry.. Well, ofcourse the poor guy cannot see that he's been going around in a circle, because he lives in a 2 dimensional world, he's been walking a straight line. But then you say.. wait a minute, ofcourse he sees this.. If he looks behind him, he cannot see the straight line back to where he started, cause he's been going around the rim! He'll see the horizon of the rim!.. Oh but yes he can see the straight line. Remember, we're the one who sees the circle, If he couldn't have seen the straight line, and saw the horizon of the rim instead, he wouldn't have been living in a two dimensional world.
This guy now draws the conclution that the universe is finite, since he's come back to his startingpoint. But we who live outside his dimension, outside the tire, see that indeed there is something beyond the tire. There's the car and the world outside. See where I'm going now?
Now back to the short story I was about to tell, and it might be a bit deeper than it seem. The first time I thought of the concept of infinity, that space could actually be infinite (Cause afterall, the stupid fowl brain in the tire don't know nothing right), guess what happened? This was in infant school when I was 7 years of age. I passed out on the desk! CRASH! and stars were all over my head!
Hows that for a sudden epifany!? |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | | Originally posted by mysticalninja |
| quote: | | Originally posted by lenieNt Force |
I sincerely hope the two of you don't have your hopes up for a rousing intellectual study of the infinite greatness of God or, for that matter, the finite resolution that there is none - that infinity is, itself, proof there-in or that there is such a thing as infinity, for that matter.
If you're looking to prove ANYTHING, it won't be about the great infinities, parallel universes or even banal discussion on how to resolve latency issues and which bit rate is better for Linux. If there is one thing crono has plenty of, in seemingly infinite supply, it is conjecture.
Look at his nic: crono as in chronological and devir as in diversion. He is predisposed to wasting an infinite amount of time and has already taken quite a bit of yours.
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Success! :D |
If God exists, some would argue. ;) |
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| lenieNt Force |
| So.. How about some pro tips on how to make your logic/cubase tracks sound better? :stongue: |
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| palm |
| quote: | Originally posted by lenieNt Force
So.. How about some pro tips on how to make your logic/cubase tracks sound better? :stongue: |
carefull on take advice from others, believe in yourself and be true to edm by mixing old with new |
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| lenieNt Force |
| quote: | Originally posted by palm
carefull on take advice from others, believe in yourself and be true to edm by mixing old with new |
Absolutely. This forum has an infinite* supply of pro tips and advices on just this subject so.. I don't feel a very urgent need of any more advice. Most info we'll ever need is here already.
* well.. not literally :crazy:
In fact.. why not just close this subforum. That way we won't have any more derailing in threads, or need of mod elections and mods. |
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| mfitterer1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
fledz, logic is the proof that 4+4=8. No one ever taught me that. People taught me what 4 was and what 8 was, and by my own logic I realized two fours make an eight. |
You realize we created the number system right? Of course it seems it has logic to you, because it was created by us! All of these things you speak of are thoughts, theories, and hypotheses that we created. They have been tossed around for so long now that people consider them as always having been the norm. Untrue to say the least.
Everything is subject to change, and nothing is what it seems. |
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