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eric prydz mastering techniques?
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| LoveHate |
| one thing that draws me to his production, is how well mastered and produced his tracks are, does anyone know of any techniques or tips he uses? if anyone can link me to an interview where maybe he discusses his productions that would be great. |
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| Kismet7 |
| He is so good at engineering, musically on the average side. Though, maybe he is strong musically but does'nt have to employ it when great engineering skills continuously nets dancefloor caving results. |
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| Eric J |
Here is a lengthy discussion on the subject on another forum:
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/elec...eric-prydz.html
There are two camps of belief on this subject:
1. He mixes all his stuff on huge SSL consoles and that is responsible for his sound. Most likely bull.
2. His sound is the result of years of practice and skill. Most likely true.
Mastering can't polish a turd, its all in the writing, arrangement, sound selection and mixing. The only way to get better at that is practice, practice, practice. |
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| Kismet7 |
I think you have to be on a pile of rocks to actually believe he mixes everything ITB without any outboard or at least a mixer for summing. To boot Sweden probably has more outboard equipment per capita than any country, he probably trips over hardware on his way to the supermarket.
Also, VST compressors still can't pull off the magic he does with compression and transient design. Otherwise, we would have heard hundreds of Producers with equal sound engineering quality after all these years. Because the parameters of sound processing software is not complex enough for other producers to not discover similar methods or technique using the same abundantly accessible compressors. |
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| Eric J |
| I'm not speculating on his use of hardware, I'm merely stating that the difference between his tracks and the average producer has more to do with talent and skill than whether or not he mixes down on an SSL console. |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | | I would say nowadays, 80% of my tracks I make on my laptop with a pair of headphones. That’s it. Or maybe 70% because I’m traveling so much, and I rarely have any time to spend in the studio. The laptop I’m using is an old crappy PC from 2004. I mean it was kind of state of the art back then; it’s kind of a custom made laptop from Frost Network, which is made for making music on it basically. It’s running a really old version of Logic. I think it’s 5.2 or something like that. But I sort of like being limited, because then you… I don’t know. Instead of trying to figure out how all the synthesizers work, you can work with a few instruments and try to make as much as possible out of that. As for my studio, I’m running a Macintosh with Logic 7, and like wavs, plugins, and I do have the Korg bundle as well. And then, I have one synthesizer I think which is a Korg MS-2000. I think it’s MS-2000B. It’s the new version. It’s the one with the vocoder thing. Apart from that I don’t have anything. Its like microphone preamps, microphones, stuff like that. But as I said before, I really like to keep the setup as small and compact as possible. It’s not really what kind of fancy equipment you have, it’s how you use the stuff that you actually have, you know. And I’m doing fine with the small setup I have, and I don’t have any plans of getting a big show off studio. I don’t need that.” |
He is basically using as much as he can of as little as he can, and i believe that is a good working method. I think its also easier to develop your own sound if you are limiting yourself to certain synths and plugins. |
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| Kismet7 |
| Of course, no denying he has engineering skills, but his sound is not from pure engineering skills is the story here, if it was we'd hear a lot more of it, since there are tons of Producers with great engineering skills, but alas they dont have the proper equipment to realise the top shelf sound we hear in Prdyz's productions. |
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| Subtle |
| It could be that he makes the tracks on his laptop then sends it to a mastering studio which mixes down the individual tracks. |
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| Kismet7 |
That could be it, with mixes goin through API or SSL console. Definately does not sound NEVE.
He is signed to ULTRA (Warner), they likely employ some of the best studios.
The moral of the story, invest heavily on engineering skills AND equipment if you want to get anywhere in this business, the most successful producers either have a engineer that manages this for them, or they have proper engineering skills + equipment. Honestly, the tracks that get the most play these days by DJs are those that are engineered well, the musical content seems to come second if DJs cant rock a crowd with mixes that arent huge sounding. |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
He is so good at engineering, musically on the average side. |
Have you written something like Pjanno? |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
Have you written something like Pjanno? |
no...why do you ask?
Though I did just finish workin on a remix that has a piano line in the original track that is a bit similar, in that it is heavily quantized like Pjanooo. Though in my remix, I took away the quantized piano line of the original melody and added different personality, through abstraction and musicality in my 'Intimate Dub' remix ;) Hopefully the label likes it enough to release it...
Still, I dont get why you would ask me if i've written something that is basically a quantized 16th note chord melody, with a bassline that is essentially doing the same thing with a few longer chords.
I would imagine basically anyone here could make Pjanooo...if they had the engineering skills + equipment of course. If anyone produced Pjanooo without the sound the track has, it would be 1/10th the size in success. |
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| BOOsTER |
Actually, you may not find his music really complex melody-wise or whatever...but the truth is, that he *is* kinda genious about how to write a simple melody/hook/riff that does work. And most of the time in his track it DOES work much better than something complex...
There's certainly beauty in simplicity! |
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