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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
So tell me how his research is scientifically wrong through your scientific knowledge. |
It's not, but... It is compared to the vast amount of research that has proven most of these claims to be wrong or vastly exaggerated.
I know, I know, you are thinking "but thats because they are part of the conspiracy!"
Well maybe they are, or maybe you are just paranoid and choose to believe a more "interesting" reality to substitute some sort of banality in your own existence. That or you are mentally deficient. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Yay, more Youtube videos.
Tell me, Kismet. If these studies are so conclusive in their findings, then why has the scientific community not embraced them? Findings as important as these would be all over the news, right across the world. Surely? |
How do you know the scientific and medical community is not against flouridation of water?
Its not even a question of science, Flouride IS toxic, and is PUT in the water.
http://www.nofluoride.com/
http://ccpurewater.org/Professional...uoridation.html
http://www.fluoridealert.org/profes....statement.html
Over 2,700 Professionals Call for an End to Fluoridation of Drinking Water
There you go zombie, start looking there, stop asking stupid questions. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
It's not, but... It is compared to the vast amount of research that has proven most of these claims to be wrong or vastly exaggerated.
I know, I know, you are thinking "but thats because they are part of the conspiracy!"
Well maybe they are, or maybe you are just paranoid and choose to believe a more "interesting" reality to substitute some sort of banality in your own existence. That or you are mentally deficient. |
You drink a lot of flouridated water...I can tell :stongue:
Paranoid? How is using logic and evidence paranoid? Are you retarded? I'm spitting knowledge based on info out there from people who have researched the topic and have plenty of evidence, far from "paranoid". |
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| D-res |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
You drink a lot of flouridated water...I can tell :stongue:
Paranoid? How is using logic and evidence paranoid? Are you retarded? I'm spitting knowledge based on info out there from people who have researched the topic and have plenty of evidence, far from "paranoid". |
Even a skitzo thinks they're delusions are completely justified. It means nothing.
You know what you are? You're in' semantic blockage. That's what made you up /Raleigh Theodore Sakers |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
How do you know the scientific and medical community is not against flouridation of water? |
Like I said: If conclusive information was found on this, the world would know about it pretty damn quickly. Unless the information was suppressed somehow, but I know you don't believe that, do you?
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
Its not even a question of science, Flouride IS toxic, and is PUT in the water. |
In large doses, just about anything is toxic. In 'trace element' doses, I cannot agree.
I've seen more professional looking sites on Geocities, before it's demise. Also, the http://ccpurewater.org link you posted was last updated in 2005. Obviously, they feel strongly about the matter.
Exactly what percentage of the healthcare/health science community would 2700 professionals represent? Do you think that figure would be statistically significant? Do you understand what 'statistically significant' means?
Can you tell me that the list of 'professionals' on that list isn't completely doctored? (no pun intended). The comments on the http://www.nofluoride.com/ link you posted seem to be both short, and truncated in some cases. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by D-res
Even a skitzo thinks they're delusions are completely justified. It means nothing.
You know what you are? You're in' semantic blockage. That's what made you up /Raleigh Theodore Sakers |
The only delusional people here are you and those who are trying to put up a front against blatant evidence, by professionals no less. Moron.
Get a clue, delusions and schizophrenia starts with you and your buddies here. I've never seen a group of people so far up their ass. |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
Get a clue, delusions and schizophrenia starts with you and your buddies here. I've never seen a group of people so far up their ass. |
It's us, not you ;) |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Like I said: If conclusive information was found on this, the world would know about it pretty damn quickly. Unless the information was suppressed somehow, but I know you don't believe that, do you?
In large doses, just about anything is toxic. In 'trace element' doses, I cannot agree.
I've seen more professional looking sites on Geocities, before it's demise. Also, the http://ccpurewater.org link you posted was last updated in 2005. Obviously, they feel strongly about the matter.
Exactly what percentage of the healthcare/health science community would 2700 professionals represent? Do you think that figure would be statistically significant? Do you understand what 'statistically significant' means?
Can you tell me that the list of 'professionals' on that list isn't completely doctored? (no pun intended). The comments on the http://www.nofluoride.com/ link you posted seem to be both short, and truncated in some cases. |
Signers include:
Arvid Carlsson, Nobel Laureate for Physiology or Medicine, 2000
Vyvyan Howard, MD, PhD, Immediate Past President, International Society of Doctors for the Environment (ISDE)
Ingrid Eckerman, MD, MPH, President, Swedish Doctors for the Environment (LFM), Stockholm, Sweden
Raul Montenegro, PhD, Right Livelihood Award 2004 (known as the Alternative Nobel Prize), President of FUNAM, Professor of Evolutionary Biology, National University of Cordoba, Argentina
The current President and six past Presidents of the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology
Three scientists from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Headquarters Union in Washington D.C.
* William Marcus, PhD, Former chief toxicologist of the EPA Water Division, Boyds, MD
Three members of the National Research Council committee who wrote the landmark 2006 report: Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA's Standards (Hardy Limeback, PhD, DDS; Robert L. Isaacson, PhD; Kathleen M. Thiessen, PhD)
The Board of Directors, American Academy of Environmental Medicine
Two advisory board members of the UK government sponsored York Review
Andy Harris, MD, former national president, Physicians for Social Responsibility, Salem, OR
Theo Colborn, PhD, co-author, Our Stolen Future
Lynn Margulis, PhD, a recipient of the National Medal of Science
Ken Cook and Richard Wiles, President and Executive Director, Environmental Working Group (EWG)
Ron Cummins, Director, Organic Consumers Association
Magda Aelvoet, MD, Former Minister of Public Health, Leuven, BELGIUM
Doug Everingham, former Federal Health Minister (1972-75), Australia
Peter Montague, PhD, Director of Environmental Health Foundation
Ted Schettler, MD, Science Director, Science and Environmental Health Network
Stephen Lester, Science Director, Center for Health, Environment, and Justice
Lois Gibbs, Executive Director, Center for Health, Environment, and Justice, Goldman Prize Winner (1990), Falls Church, VA
Rosalie Bertell, PhD, Regent of the Board, International Physicians for Humanitarian Medicine, Geneva, Switzerland, Retired President, International Institute of Concern for Public Health, Toronto, Canada
FIVE Goldman Prize winners (2006, 2003, 1997, 1995, 1990)
Sam Epstein, MD, author, Politics of Cancer and Chairman, Cancer Prevention Coalition
Pat Costner, retired Senior Scientist, Greenpeace International
Jay Feldman, Executive Director, Beyond Pesticides
Sandra Duffy, Board President, Consumers for Dental Choice
Joseph Mercola, Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine, http://www.mercola.com, Chicago, IL
Michael W. Fox, DSc, PhD, BVM, MRCVS (former vice president of The Humane Society of the US, former vice president of Humane Society International and the author of more than 40 adult and childrens books on animal care, animal behavior and bioethics), http://www.twobitdog.com/DrFox/, Minneapolis, MN
Leo Cashman, Executive Director of DAMS (Dental Amalgam Mercury Syndrome)
Chris Bryson, author, The Fluoride Deception
Environmental leaders from over 30 countries, and
Legendary folksinger, songwriter and activist, Pete Seeger
Signers by-degree as of March 31, 2010:
401 Nurses (RN, MSN, BSN, ARNP, APRN, LNC, RGON
380 PhD's - includes DSc, Doctor of Science; EdD (Doctor of Education); DrPH (Doctor of Public Health)
366 DC's (Doctor of Chiropractic, includes M Chiro)
323 MD's (includes MBBS)
262 Dentists (DDS, DMD, BDS)
132 ND's (Doctor of Naturopathic Medicine)
70 Lawyers (JD, LLB, Avvocato)
61 RDHs (Registered Dental Hygienist); also DH, RDHAP, EFDA, RDAEF, and RDN
48 Pharmacists (Pharm.D, B. Pharm, DPh, RPH)
41 Acupuncturists (LAc - Licensed Acupuncturist, and, MAc -Master Acupuncturist)
26 DO's (Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine)
20 Veterinarians (DMV, VMD, BVMS)
Are you mentally blind? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Yay, more Youtube videos. |
that's the bible of conspiracy theorists!! :haha:
kismet is a ing moron.
the jury is still out re fluroidation. and if the dangers are so great and so obvious, i tend to think that it would've been fairly easy to provide verifiable results showing those dangers.
what we do know though is fluroride plays a big role in preventing tooth decay. that is the one and ONLY basis for fluoriding water. if and when it is proven to be dangerous, im sure we'll stop. but the assertion that it is done deliberately by the government, because its known to help control minds or cause health problems, is as retarded as kismet.
fluoride is not nearly as important as it was 50 years ago, because we're all much better at taking care of our teeth. but at the time, it was a massive step forward for dental care.
id also like to see an explanation from retards like kismet or washley for what the evil government, their family, lovers, friends etc do on days when chemtrails are being sprayed into the air. collective sick day in the secret bunker? :stongue: :stongue: |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
It's us, not you ;) |
:stongue:
So far i've seen nothing but delusions, ignorance, and plain stupidity from your side. With the cheapest straw grabbing arguments. The only way you would think your arguments have any sort of weight is if you were completely delusional. Say something sensible and reasonable for once. |
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| D-res |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
The only delusional people here are you and those who are trying to put up a front against blatant evidence, by professionals no less. Moron.
Get a clue, delusions and schizophrenia starts with you and your buddies here. I've never seen a group of people so far up their ass. |
You'd have been better off latching onto the evidence I supplied, which was legitimate AND extensive, which PARTIALLY agreed with you that fluoride consumption is harmful and the standards are too high.
To actually think there's a global conspiracy on the part of 30 people who are all members of the same bloodline, all of which know and participate in occult, esoteric traditions that supersede science and completely fool the multitude of intellectuals on the planet who might discover their secret is ing retarded. People call Noam Chomsky's theories extreme and he'd find nothing but humor in your conclusions.
Go jerk off to your beatport page |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
:stongue:
So far i've seen nothing but delusions, ignorance, and plain stupidity from your side. With the cheapest straw grabbing arguments. The only way you would think your arguments have any sort of weight is if you were completely delusional. Say something sensible and reasonable for once. |
you're the idiot conspiracy theorist. rather than posting a bunch of irrelevant names, why dont you post a link to peer-reviewed studies published in reputable journals that validate your assertions that the evil government puts fluroide in the water supply because it knows its bad for us? |
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