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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by D-res
You won't stop referencing that until every CTer on earth knows those rules by heart (and disregards them) will you? :p |
haha! well, i like to be honest and quote my sources (plus, its nice and easy).
of course, the best way to avoid my quoting is simply not to make those same damn mistakes, over and over again. alas they just can't help themselves! :tongue2 |
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| Trance Nutter |
Hey Kismet, I just found plenty of peer-reviewed journal articles (do you know what peer-reviewed means?) that say there is no health risks
How come I could find these if everyone agrees its dangerous?
How come I found systematic reviews from some of the top journals saying there was no effect? Do you know what a systematic review is? That means they take everyone's studies and put it all together. So the total answer is - there is no adverse health effects.
I could show you, but I won't. Because using your logic, you need to educate yourself. |
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| saluyamo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
Water flouridation essentially dumbs people down who drink or use tap water (i.e when you shower with hot water and that water permeates your skin). Its especially effect on the developing minds of children. And in adults, screwing up your thyroid over time, hence all this obesity, because everyones hormones are getting ed up over time. |
So let me get this straight. The US Health Care companies have been poisoning the entire American drinking water supply for several decades with a chemical which causes obesity and...retardation?
The source on the following might not be great, as my google fu didnt return to many results.
http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/retard.htm
If flouride does 'dumbs people down', the surely the number of those with mental retardation would be on the rise |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
So in your mind, I have to be a scientist to share info about a topic that has plenty of research out there. You're not that smart of a scientist imo. |
It's all right. In your opinion, Youtube videos also count as research, it seems.
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
I dont need to be no damn scientist to point you in the direction where people are making a case for what i'm saying. So tell me how his research is scientifically wrong through your scientific knowledge. |
First of all, instead of doing research on entertainment websites, go to your university library and see what actual scientific journals have to say on this matter. And, by scientific journals, I mean "articles available in actual print (and that may be available on-line in virtual repositories as long as it is not in a domain like stopfluoride.com)", so you can read both sides of the story and an actual discussion methodology, replication of results and, most importantly, what the critics have to say.
This is just for starters, by the way. If you look up of the scientists you mentioned, you'll see that some of them show some sort of ideological opposition against fluoride that have nothing to do whatsoever with what you're saying. Put this should come after your first research, not before ;) |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| What the thunder said. |
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| ModernNosferatu |
I am a CT'er on a lot of issues but there are 2 I have a hard time believing...
One: The Chemtrails - Ok, coming from a fellow CT'er this is not logical because all the chemicals that are said to be in a Chemtrail would also effect the NWO or ellite, as they are living, breathing people who are out and about every day and share the same atmosphere as we do. At-Most-Fear !!
Two: Fluoride - My Dad works for the water company and he even states the levels are not high enough to hurt anyone, now the Fluoride might effect a small percentage of the population in a negative way but not a large enough percentage for people to really embrasses it as a negative. Also people been drinking nothing but bottled water for years now so maybe they are using reverse psychology to make you think the water is bad so you will buy their bottled waters or things you hook up to your sink etc ....
What will really boggle your mind is did my Dad say this because it's true or because he just stands by his job? |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
It's all right. In your opinion, Youtube videos also count as research, it seems.
First of all, instead of doing research on entertainment websites, go to your university library and see what actual scientific journals have to say on this matter. And, by scientific journals, I mean "articles available in actual print (and that may be available on-line in virtual repositories as long as it is not in a domain like stopfluoride.com)", so you can read both sides of the story and an actual discussion methodology, replication of results and, most importantly, what the critics have to say.
This is just for starters, by the way. If you look up of the scientists you mentioned, you'll see that some of them show some sort of ideological opposition against fluoride that have nothing to do whatsoever with what you're saying. Put this should come after your first research, not before ;) |
OH , SON! |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by ModernNosferatu
I am a CT'er on a lot of issues but there are 2 I have a hard time believing...
One: The Chemtrails - Ok, coming from a fellow CT'er this is not logical because all the chemicals that are said to be in a Chemtrail would also effect the NWO or ellite, as they are living, breathing people who are out and about every day and share the same atmosphere as we do. At-Most-Fear !!
Two: Fluoride - My Dad works for the water company and he even states the levels are not high enough to hurt anyone, now the Fluoride might effect a small percentage of the population in a negative way but not a large enough percentage for people to really embrasses it as a negative. Also people been drinking nothing but bottled water for years now so maybe they are using reverse psychology to make you think the water is bad so you will buy their bottled waters or things you hook up to your sink etc ....
What will really boggle your mind is did my Dad say this because it's true or because he just stands by his job? |
you know you're a retard when even your fellow retards think you're crazy. |
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| ModernNosferatu |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
you know you're a retard when even your fellow retards think you're crazy. |
exactly my point...you have to think some of these things out before believing in them |
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| w_ashley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Right there, that's the key point.
I'm sorry (Kismet), but until there is anything CONCLUSIVE shown to me from legitimate studies from experts, that are able to find results that are able to be SCIENTIFICALLY REPLICATED by others, I refuse to believe there's some massive conspiracy to dumb down the population anywhere.
Mind you, there's most likely a conspiracy that involves suppressing the findings of these 'legitimate studies'. Thankfully, all the proof is able to be shown by posting Youtube videos to back arguments up :haha: |
Flouride is a poison. Just like it assists hard minerals protect your enamel by coating them, it also gets into your bones and blood stream, mineralization of the blood system causes heart attacks, strokes, cancer and other issues. Deposits in organs cause organ damage. Flouride is not used to make water drinkable. If you could have clean water with just the stuff you needed or water with a whole bunch of stuff you may or may not need - eg. for people who brush their teeth with flouride contained, or people who buy flouride seperately - what would you do, buy the clean water, or buy the water full of industrial wastes?
People do pay for the spring water these days... why flourodate water that isn't even drank, or is filtered out by people who want clean water?
Why not instead just provide free flouride for people who want it in a ration giving people their infintismally small monthly or annual supply of the stuff needed for dental health - instead of pumping it into the water supply to filter down and concentrate - where it matters in the sewage system, and all the water ways connected.
It is a disgusting process. I contacted various people about this, and what the politicians stated was - it is a municipal choice. Most of the communities I live in now are finally switching I'd like to think it was due to contacting the municipal politicians, there is no way to know, but having clean water, and a sewage system and a seperate clean water system are things I'd like to see communities have access to. This is another reason why I am hoping for protections from the various mining industries in my new northern home. I think mining does a lot, but the industrial waste has to be kept clear of the unspoiled water ways, rail lines that transport lethal chemicals also need to be taken from the lake side. I'm not against industry but there are standards that should be upheld to protect our watersupply. We don't need to dump industrial waste, cleaners and human excrement into the water supply. It is largely an urban issue, but it is also in part a lifestyle and infrastructure issue.
This stuff will change over time but not quickly enough, and there will be business in bioremediation more tomorrow than there is today.
How much do municipalies spend on the technology training, and supplies for water flouridation - how many flouride treatments in children would that pay for each year?
It is called a restricted beneficial effect with various side effects. There are other ways to approach dental health than drugging the population with a poison.
I don't expect change over night but we have come a long way in technology and knowledge over the last 100 years, and we should advance with that knowledge in terms of implementation and infrastruture renewal when economic.
If you actually drank the stuff that is left after reverse osmosis.. it would kill you.
--- My birth city, and Kitchener are now flouride free - waterloo my other major city is holding a plebesite in the upcoming election.
In 1981 they continued flourodation by a 51% to 49% vote. It will be interesting to see the outcome, but so far most major powers the WHO, Canadian Dental Assosiation, Regional Health director etc.. all support fluoridation.
http://naturalbias.com/the-deadly-dangers-of-water/ |
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| Arbiter |
| Uh oh, looks like we're going to need a cleanup in aisle seven... |
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| tubularbills |
| CONTRAILS are an actual meteorological reportable phenomenea in METARS. i've done it plenty of times. reference AFMAN 15-111 |
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