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| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by Saka
and Stalin, God made us perfect, we are now imperfect... :rolleyes:
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Then we weren't made perfect. Otherwise we'd still BE perfect. The fact that we currently aren't proves that we never were. |
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| Saka |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spam
Then we weren't made perfect. Otherwise we'd still BE perfect. The fact that we currently aren't proves that we never were. |
That thought process is astonishing.... |
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| ModernNosferatu |
| quote: | Originally posted by Saka
What you said helps prove creationism:
it at least showed it was possible to create the building blocks of life from non-life.
lol. |
I think we have proof that these buliding blocks came from meterorytes from space long ago that had organic material in them that helped shape the Earths oceans and thus some life atleast on a small level that increased over time. I could be wrong on this though. |
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| Vernon Wanderer |
| Saka, what is your religion? |
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| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by Saka
That thought process is astonishing.... |
Would you care to explain how a perfect being BECOMES imperfect then? Because when I think of perfection, I think of this definition:
entirely without any flaws, defects, or shortcomings
To become imperfect, then the "perfect" being would have to had a flaw within it, meaning it never was ACTUALLY perfect. |
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| yukii |
| quote: | Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
Question, if God made us so perfectly, why do we have wisdom teeth? |
Why do we have a tail bone?
Why do we have gills during the early stages of development?
Why can we wiggle our ears?
Did you know the pink part in our eyes is the remnant of a necessitating membrane? (which alligators, cats, & other animals still have)
Even though evolution does allow a species to progress, people forget that evolution is COMPLETELY random. There will never be a mutation for the benefit of the organism.
Here's a quick example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Kettlewell
This man studied how moths changed their phenotype, not because it benefits their species, but because all the white moths sitting against dark trees were susceptible to being eaten by birds. The one moth that had a mutation in it's genotype to have a black phenotype was the one that was able to pass on its genes.. Once the industrial period passed & soot was no longer darkening the trees, the complete opposite took effect. The darker moths were the ones being eaten, so the white grew in number. |
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| Capitalizt |
| quote: | Originally posted by Saka
What you said helps prove creationism:
it at least showed it was possible to create the building blocks of life from non-life.
lol. |
no it doesn't. Creationism is typically tied to biblical creationism..which says life was created roughly 6000 years ago instantly without any precursors or processes that led up to it (in other words, by magic). That hardly matches the various scientific hypotheses people are researching today. |
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| infiniteJEST |
| arent yukii and comrade stalin the same dude :wtf: |
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| netroM |
| quote: | Originally posted by infiniteJEST
arent yukii and comrade stalin the same dude :wtf: |
Comrade Stalin = Krypton, yukii is his gf.
yukii:
"This man studied how moths changed their phenotype, not because it benefits their species, but because all the white moths sitting against dark trees were susceptible to being eaten by birds."
How does that not benefit the species? Changing colour so the species can live on, I mean. |
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| Vernon Wanderer |
| quote: | Originally posted by infiniteJEST
arent yukii and comrade stalin the same dude :wtf: |
Yeah, but two bodies. |
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| Comrade Stalin |
| quote: | Originally posted by Saka
and Stalin, God made us perfect, we are now imperfect... :rolleyes: |
How scientific...what kind of research did you do come up with this insight?
| quote: | | You are totally fixed on evolution then? mind and heart? |
Again, whether you or I believe in the Theory of Evolution, says nothing as to the truth of it. Whether you like it or not, evolution is a fact, no less valid than Einstein's General Theory of Relatively. The only people who reject evolution as a fact are those who are religiously inclined to do so. Again, it's not about me or you. A fact is fact whether you believe in it or not.
If you haven't noticed, I have been challenging you to provide some scientific basis for your beliefs, though I already know you have none because there is none. You've only provided vague philosophically/religiously oriented explanations of yourself, with a really bad attempt at the use of statistics. But I understand. You have at the heart of your entire world view, the belief that an intelligent, highly involved God created everything basically as it is today. And nothing, no matter the overwhelming volume of evidence to support it, is going to change your mind. But that's still no excuse for ignorance, especially the peddling of such ignorance on a public forum like this one. |
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| Saka |
Been slated enough, fact is neither of us is changing the others mind, and is causing parties to feud.
I have no ill feeling toward anyone for their beliefs and don;t want any ill feeling towards myself from others, so to not waste my time or anyone elses I'll got chat elsewhere about things that dont waste a group of peoples time. |
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