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| yukii |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
This has already been mentioned. :p |
Sorry, I didn't read the entire thread. Ive just been posting things from memory, experiments that I thought were amazing :)
@moongoose - I know.. I really should consider that when explaining things to people who have a small understanding of the concept. |
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| Chris Crossland |
Everyone needs to watch Nude Nuns with Big Guns
Where is your god now!?
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| Comrade Stalin |
| quote: | Originally posted by LiquidX
I haven't browsed the whole thread, but I hope it has been discussed that not all Religious Christians discard evolution, in fact many embrace it and make a number of connections of Evolution and the creation of God. For those who believe in the Bible, much of the language in it is symbolism, many paraboles for the wise to understand .. anyways, that might start a discussion on it's own ( if it hasn't already ).. anyways, thought I'd just jump in and kind of clear that "generalizing" if it hasn't already. We don't want ignorant comments to come off equally dumb as those of Glenn Beck's. |
It just so happens that the loudest ones are the evangelical creationist Christians who preach a literal interpretation of the Bible, otherwise, you're not "Christian" enough for them. If the Bible said 7 days, then damn it, it took 7 days! If you don't believe that literally, you're a heathen secular humanist bound for the fires of hell. And since saka probably believes he'll go to hell for accepting scientific truth over a literal interpretation of his holy book, it's no wonder he doesn't stick around to realize the lack of rationality believing in creationism entails. |
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| infiniteJEST |
If you read the bible and replace "God" with "Joseph Stalin" it makes a bit more sense.
Not a whole lot, but there's some clarity on why he was such a dick to Job. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Blood Sister: One Tough Nun |
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| Fledz |
Simple bacteria replicating in a Petri dish is a sign of evolution. You add an antibiotic and 99% die, while the resistant one lives on and replicates. Soon you have the same number as before, but with a genetic resistance to the introduced antibiotic.
It happens right in front of your eyes, so I can't see how anyone can say it's not true. |
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| Moongoose |
| Oh they find ways for that. These people will go to extraordinary ways to rationalise their irrational beliefs. In that case i think the argument would be that what we are seeing is micro evolution and while micro evolution is possible macro evolution is impossible therefore goddidit. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seandroid
I've never understood the concept of the devil being the creator of hell but God using it to his disposal for people he doesn't think are hip enough to go to heaven. So in other words God and the devil are bros and they work together and frequently eat tea and crumpets or something?
Does that make any sense to anyone else? |
It doesn't; however, that's not really how Christians believe it works. There are two established schools of thought on the process... one; God denies entry into heaven and "the devil" takes the individual to hell (so God won't let you in... I got a place for you)... two; the inidividual denies themself entry into heaven and is left in the state of "hell" along with "the devil" who was cast from God's sight (hey, you don't think you belong with God... well, you might as well hang with me). The whole notion of the devil torturing people beside a lake of burning oil is really from Dante rather then the Bible. |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moongoose
Oh they find ways for that. These people will go to extraordinary ways to rationalise their irrational beliefs. In that case i think the argument would be that what we are seeing is micro evolution and while micro evolution is possible macro evolution is impossible therefore goddidit. |
Sadly I've heard this used before. ing crackpots :rolleyes: |
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| Moongoose |
| Well in that case why bother being christian at all? If there are no repercussions and the only difference after death is who you hang out with isnt it better to hang out with the devil because according to the bible he is much less of a prick than god. No evernal torment in the lake of fire? it then, im with the devil, he sounds like a fun guy. |
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| Moongoose |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Sadly I've heard this used before. ing crackpots :rolleyes: |
I know, they will go to great lenghts to try and explain their way around scientific fact, then call you stupid, for believing such a "ridiculous and improbable" tale/lie. A facepalm moment if there ever was one. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Saka
For me the Bible is too accurate, and science just backs up the fact that there has to be a creator. |
Saka, I think everyone in this thread will recognise that me telling you the above statement is one of the most mind numbingly ill-thought ever uttered in any theology thread on this board is about as big a condemnation there could be. 1) the Bible is so inaccurate in so many ways that most Christian churchs (including the RCs, Anglicans and Eastern Orthos) stress that the Bible cannot be understood or accepted as litteral. 2) Science can only have any position on things that are observable; subsequently, science cannot hold any position on God(s).
| quote: | | The "math" for evolution does not in any way add up. |
If any group ever had a vested interest in disproving evolutionary theory it is the Vatican. The fact that the Vatican fully accepts evolution as the most probable explenation for how life on earth developed suggests to me that greater minds then yours, mine, or anyone in this thread have already conceeded the fight you're trying to advance.
I'm willing to accept there being validity in most theological beliefs; however, arguing that the Bible is a better explenation of the origins of life than evolutionary theory is beyond the pail. |
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